Chicken Droppings ?

Posted by: Anonymous

Chicken Droppings ? - 01/09/04 12:11 PM

Ok heres go. Can you are cant you use your chicken waste for fertilizer in the garden ? Like You do with cow and horse patties.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 01/09/04 12:22 PM

Yes, you can. BUT it should be composted first because the nitrogen in fresh droppings is so high you run the risk of burning the plants. If there is bedding material(shavings, straw, etc) mixed in with it, composting should also prevent any unwanted seeds from sprouting in your garden. Good luck- Cedewynne
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 01/10/04 01:51 AM

Thank you cedewynne , thank you very much.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 01/10/04 09:16 AM

I use shavings on the floor. When its time to clean, I just use the shavings instead of shreded bark along the house for a border. I plan to plant flowers in spring, after the stuff has time to break down a bit this winter. Come warmer weather I plan to use it to kill vegitation on an embankment nearby.
Posted by: Lacey

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 01/26/04 08:59 PM

My dad used some chicken dropping to fetrilize some potted plants (tomatos and peppers, cant have a garden with chickens!) this past summer. He put...well actually he had me do it, he told me to put the droppings in a bucket with water. I put the drooping in a buckets and put hot water in then i let it soak for a while then stirred it and made sure the droppings "melted" i then poured it into another bucket with a net on top to strain the shavings out of it.I let the net witht he shavings in it hang int he bucket to make sure all the dropping were gone. My dad said to let it sit for a while (i think it was around a week and a half to 2 weeks) until foam formed on top and then disappered (boy did it smell awful). Then he would dump a cup full or so on the plants every few days or so. I think it worked well, we had some really nice tomoatoes..alot of cherry tomatoes too...
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 01/26/04 09:07 PM

Thank you so much Lacey. You've just did for me and made 10-10-10 a hit! eek
Posted by: Sally

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 01/28/04 04:10 AM

? what do you mean J. Todd? Are you gonna try the mix or use 10 10 10? Maybe it is too early for me hahaha.
Anyways, that sounds like a good mix to me. I also try to put the raw manure on weeds etc. but I think I just raise SUPER WEEDS!!! LOL
Happy composting all :-)
Sally
Posted by: Susie

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 01/28/04 04:20 AM

I've done that manure tea thing and the plants LOVED it! My tomato plants went up to about 7' tall and then came back down and hit the ground -- so 14' or so before a frost zapped them. It was incredible and everyone kept asking what I was doing to them! My mom had the same plants (I grew them from seed) and hers reached about 5', so there's the difference for ya'.

However, the tea is so smelly, it'll knock you down when you open that bucket!! LOL!

I have also aged (about 6 months) the litter from the coop and then used it as a top dressing. That also works well and rain/watering seems to leach some good nutrients into the soil. I ended up with a nice mulch and combo fertilizer at the same time.

Your garden will amaze your friends and family if you utilize the chicken waste!

Susie
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 01/28/04 05:16 AM

Just a caveat about the wood shavings. My Botany professor warned us that wood shavings will suck the available nitrogen out of the soil and to be sure to add more to the soil or compost heap to correct the situation. This fellow also teaches a Soil Biology class( can't wait to take it) so I am fairly sure he knows what he is talking about. Perhaps adding a bag or Urea to the compost heap with the wood shavings would help? Lee, if you see this, what is your opinion? - Cedewynne
Posted by: Sally

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 01/28/04 07:45 PM

hmmmm....does that wood shavings situation go for all types of manure or just poultry? We spread a lot of the waste on the pastures to green them up in summer and to keep the animals from over-grazing in the winter. We have so much sand here it doesn't take much to wipe out the greenery. I sometimes put seed down then cover it with the manure/shavings mix and the seed seems to always come up ok....Please respond if you know, anyone. Thanks
Sally
Posted by: KazJaps

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 01/29/04 03:39 AM

The goal Carbon:Nitrogen ratio for composting is around 30:1.

Quote:
Materials to compost
The most commonly used materials for the compost pile are manure mixed with livestock bedding. To achieve the balance of carbon to nitrogen (25 -35:1) needed to begin the composting process, mix bedding (which is predominantly carbon) with the raw manure (which is an excellent source of nitrogen). Bedding materials vary in their Carbon:Nitrogen (C:N) ratio from about 80:1 in straw to 200:1 or more in sawdust or shavings.

Carbon:Nitrogen ratio (C:N) of compost materials:
Dairy manure 20:1, Sheep manure 14:1, Poultry manure 10:1, Humus 10:1, Vegetable wastes 12:1, Seaweed 19:1, Straw 80:1, Corn stalks 60:1, Leaves 45:1, Alfalfa 13:1, Legume/grass hay 25:1, Grass hay 80:1, Rotted sawdust 200:1, Fresh sawdust 500:1, Newspaper 800:1
Source:
Organic Agriculture, Manure and E. Coli
http://www.cog.ca/ref15.pdf
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The next lot of links help in the calculation of composting ingredients percentages:

Calculation of Carbon-to-Nitrogen Ratio (C:N)
http://www.mastercomposter.com/ref/calcc_n.html

Compost Ingredients (with carbon:nitrogen ratio)
http://www.mastercomposter.com/ref/orgmat1.html

Home page of Mastercomposter:
http://www.mastercomposter.com/index.html

Cornell University: CoComposter Excel workbook:
http://www.cfe.cornell.edu/wmi/Compost/CoCompost.html
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 01/30/04 07:08 AM

Growing up we composted with the horse and cow manure, and like the chicken manure it too has to be composted because it is to hot. We used to let it sit out in the sun and rain, for about a month or two. When it didn't rain we used to hose it with water, we also used to try an rotate it, which is harder in a pile then in one of those new rotateable ones you see for sale now. I use hay as bedding for my chickens and It also give me something else to composte with.
Posted by: BMW

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 02/02/04 07:55 PM

I'm an avid gardener too and one of the primary reasons I got chickens is for their droppings. I've gone 100% organic in my vegetable garden and raise all the usual veggies but only heirloom and older open-pollinated types. Anyway, I wonder if anyone can give me a good recipe for chicken dropping tea. The post above is not quite enough for me. Is their a good recipe for how much water and time and such? Isn't it still too hot after only a few days? My 8 hens are going to pile me up with droppings by May. Help?
Posted by: Aram Seattle

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 02/03/04 11:40 AM

I have once made a super concentrated manure tea (as in 1 to 1 ratio) and tried to kill weeds with that. Lo and behold, I got superweeds. I have never been able to burn my plants with fresh chicken manure. In fact when I pasture my poultry I have a .4 inch layer of manure on my lawn each time I move the pen. After about 3 weeks you can't tell the difference.

Organic gardeners must know Ruth Stout, the super mulcher lady. Well, the nitrogen fix is partially a myth according to her. If you do not rake the manure and shavings into the soil, and I don't know why anybody would do that extra work, then you will not have any nitrogen defficiency. Pile it on top. The nutrients will decompose and eventually add to the soil and mulch will keep weeds from coming up. Kill two birds with one stone. It is really that simple.
Posted by: J. Henderson

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 02/10/04 03:08 PM

Re: Cedewynne's caveat about the wood shavings. If wood shavings will suck the available nitrogen out of the soil, and chicken droppings are too rich in nitrogen, wouldn't that make a mix of wood shavings and chicken manure nature's most perfect compost?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Chicken Droppings ? - 02/10/04 03:26 PM

Hi all,

I haven't begun using my droppings yet, but I'm thinking I oughtta and that tea recipe sounds good - I'm hoping someone will post it!

Hey BMW, where do you get your plants/seeds? There isn't much out here locally in the way of nurseries...maybe you could send me a PM - I'm really curious what you've found that grows well up here - if you are where I think you are we are in a funny zone. When I lived down below near Pasadena I was an avid gardner, but have found it challenging here. :rolleyes: