Bio-Security and Bird Flu

Posted by: Moderator2

Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 11/06/05 04:54 PM

In response to the recent concern over “Bird Flu” I have started this topic to help our members understand the risks they may be exposed to and what they can do about it.

I ask that this thread remain on topic. The topic being the prevention of disease. Thank you.

I would like to start with a few general guidelines and offer some links to get things started.

Strong healthy birds are less likely to get sick. A good diet, plenty of fresh clean water, low stress and a clean environment will go a long way to develop a strong healthy flock. Birds with unknown illness should be isolated or culled.

Bio-security. Simply put bio-security means what is on your property stays on your property and what is off your property stays off your property. Some things are beyond our control like migrating wild birds. Many things are within our control. Be careful where you get new birds. Unfortunately there are people who will unload sick birds on you. Auctions are one of the worst since you are not likely to see that person again. Always quarantine any new birds you bring home and your own birds if they have left the property. Many diseases are transmitted through droppings, feathers, and even dust. If you have been working with your birds clean up before visiting another poultry location and the same if you are returning home from being around other poultry. If we take some simple precautions we can prevent a lot of diseases from spreading.

Check with authorities in your area to see what, if any, diseases you should be concerned about. Here is a link for those in the US to contact your state veterinarian.

The link provided above no longer links directly to bird security although you can gain access to APHIS services via this link

Here are some additional links of interest.
Most of these links were provided by Coop members. Thank you!

Knowlege is your best defense and wash your hands laugh
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 11/09/05 09:08 PM

Another good website is hosted by The International Society for Infectious Diseases (ISID). Their site addresses more diseases than avian flu alone, and it provides detailed information on many international outbreaks of infectious disease:
Patrick in MN
Posted by: Deb AZ

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 11/10/05 10:01 AM

Understnding the measures, means and methods of Biosecurity is essential for healthy flocks and many steps can be implemented as just good husbandry practices. Some may feel it can be a matter of inconvienence but there are many simple measures one can take. Below are some good links to learn more not only about biosecurity measures but understanding Bird Flu.

what samll flock owners should know about bird flu PDF file

what you should know about bird Flu PDF file


University of Maryland Biosecurity

A Poultry Perspective "what is biosecurity?"
Posted by: Rob2

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 11/10/05 11:24 AM

Most old texts and basic poultry books for general use have stressed bio security for years; its nothing new. Maintaining good husbandry practices and some common sense along with breeding for resistance can go along ways to protecting a flock. With all the problems I read about in chickens on the internet, I sometimes wonder if any of that is applied?
Posted by: Moderator2

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 11/18/05 03:38 PM

I saw on the news that they are vaccinating chickens in some of the affected countries but I can't offer any more information than that.
Posted by: Mike in Az

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 12/07/05 10:42 AM

What is the latest on the bird flu? I havent seen any real news about it lately. I would like to build a bigger coop and add to my flock but I dont think I should if this flu is going to come any where near us here in Arizona.

Has anyone heard anything?
Posted by: Mopar Chick

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 12/07/05 11:12 AM

The latest thing I heard was that there was a new case just reported in China involving a 10yr old girl. There had been no previous cases reported in her village.
Posted by: Blue Egg Girl

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 12/31/05 05:43 PM

Everybody needs to take a deep breath and not panic. The Bird Flu isn't even in the United States and I would dare say its just another media sensation like AIDS, Lyme, West Nile, SARS and so many other diseases that were going to kill everybody in the world.
Its real simple...
people just need to use common sense.
~Don't have alot of animals coming and going all the time.
~Provide plenty of food (and not just scratch feed or corn), FRESH water, GREENS, dry bedding, shelter and SUNSHINE.
~Don't overcrowd.
~Don't show your birds at poultry shows.
~Don't buy from auctions, swap meets or from people who don't take good care of their animals.
~Isolate newcomers for 30 days.
Do this and you won't have to worry about any type of diseases.
If you don't have the time and money to provide this type of care, get rid of your animals.
Posted by: Lisa in PA

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 01/09/06 09:02 AM

Would a disinfectant foot mat help? I have a very small flock (5 hens) and visit others with small backyard flocks frequently. Maybe the family could wipe our feet on this as soon as we get home? Maybe just spray our shoes with lysol?
Posted by: Hen-Gen

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 02/22/06 06:56 AM

Over this side of the water the disease seems to be being spread by wild waterfowl. Here, bio-security though very important is of less concern than governmental response. Should a bird be found that tests positive beit wild or domesticated then all domestic poultry within a 3km radius will be slaughtered.
The UK government has set its face against vaccination as a preventitive measure. The most recent case is in France so it seems to be a racing probability that it will reach the UK. Given that the disease is in the wild bird population then erradication seems unlikely. Could this be the end of all free-range poultry keeping?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 02/28/06 12:30 PM

Here is a news release from the ISID Pro-Med website on the issue of migratory birds vs. large-scale poultry operations. The full report can be read at
Patrick in MN

Archive Number 20060228.0645
Published Date 28-FEB-2006
Subject PRO/AH> Avian influenza, poultry vs migratory birds (05)

A ProMED-mail post

ProMED-mail is a program of the
International Society for Infectious Diseases

Date: 27 Feb 2006
From: ProMED-mail
Source: GRAIN-Information [edited]

Report says global poultry industry is the root of the bird flu crisis
Small-scale poultry farming and wild birds are being unfairly blamed for
the bird flu crisis now affecting large parts of the world. A new report
from GRAIN shows how the transnational poultry industry is the root of the
problem and must be the focus of efforts to control the virus. (1)

The spread of industrial poultry production and trade networks has created
ideal conditions for the emergence and transmission of lethal viruses like
the H5N1 strain of bird flu. Once inside densely populated factory farms,
viruses can rapidly become lethal and amplify. Air thick with viral load
from infected farms is carried for kilometers, while integrated trade
networks spread the disease through many carriers: live birds, day-old
chicks, meat, feathers, hatching eggs, eggs, chicken manure and animal
feed. (2)

"Everyone is focused on migratory birds and backyard chickens as the
problem," says Devlin Kuyek of GRAIN. "But they are not effective vectors
of highly pathogenic bird flu. The virus kills them, but is unlikely to be
spread by them."

For example, in Malaysia, the mortality rate from H5N1 among village
chickens is only 5 per cent, indicating that the virus has a hard time
spreading among small scale chicken flocks. H5N1 outbreaks in Laos, which
is surrounded by infected countries, have only occurred in the nation's few
factory farms, which are supplied by Thai hatcheries. The only cases of
bird flu in backyard poultry, which account for over 90 per cent of Laos'
production, occurred next to the factory farms.

"The evidence we see over and over again, from the Netherlands in 2003 to
Japan in 2004 to Egypt in 2006, is that lethal bird flu breaks out in large
scale industrial chicken farms and then spreads," Kuyek explains.

The Nigerian outbreak earlier this year [2006] began at a single factory
farm, owned by a cabinet minister, distant from hotspots for migratory
birds but known for importing unregulated hatchable eggs. In India, local
authorities say that H5N1 emerged and spread from a factory farm owned by
the country's largest poultry company, Venkateshwara Hatcheries.

A burning question is why governments and international agencies, like the
UN Food and Agriculture Organization, are doing nothing to investigate how
the factory farms and their byproducts, such as animal feed and manure,
spread the virus. Instead, they are using the crisis as an opportunity to
further industrialize the poultry sector. Initiatives are multiplying to
ban outdoor poultry, squeeze out small producers and restock farms with
genetically-modified chickens. The web of complicity with an industry
engaged in a string of denials and cover-ups seems complete.

"Farmers are losing their livelihoods, native chickens are being wiped out,
and some experts say that we're on the verge of a human pandemic that could
kill millions of people," Kuyek concludes. "When will governments realize
that to protect poultry and people from bird flu, we need to protect them
from the global poultry industry?"

(1) The full briefing, "Fowl play: The poultry industry's central role in
the bird flu crisis," is available at .
Spanish and French translations will be posted shortly.
(2) Chicken feces and bedding from poultry factory floors are common
ingredients in animal feed.

Posted by: Admin @ The Coop

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 10/16/06 03:14 PM

Over the past year, there has been an educational campaign to raise poultry keepers awareness of Avian Influenza and Biosecurity. Now a research and media company has hired an independent research firm to do a study to assess the success of the campaign and the various methods that were used to try and reach the poultry community.

I would like to ask visitors to The Coop to take a moment to fill out the survey - I have, and it took me about 2 minutes. This will provide feedback that can improve the success of future educational campaigns.

Loren Hadley
The Coop
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 12/10/06 12:00 PM

My understanding from the little research I have been able to do, is that it is following the migration patterns of waterfowl and it is inevitable that it will be in the US soon. The thing is Avian flu is already here, it is just not a virilant form. No H5N1 cases have been found. Avian flu, like the flu in humans mutates frequently, that is why human flu vaccine is changed every year. The H5N1 version of the flu is wide spread in Asia, but not all strains seem to be as virilant and most do not cross the species line, from bird to human, but we have seen this before in Swine flu, it could mutate and become much more virilant and cross the spiecies line much more easily. I have had my flock checked and have added it to my NPIP check yearly. I do not fear the flu in my flock anymore that I do any other disease that is passed from wild birds to our flocks, I do however wash my hands more often and now store and wear coveralls and shoe covers in all my different chicken houses, so I do not carry any dander or droppings into my home, I really do not need to change between house because my chickens mingle freeranging, but I have made it a habit just incase the day does come that I cannot free range my chickens. I worry more about delivery trucks and visitor than anything else, as there are many non NPIP flocks in my area, I worry more about disease that are easlily passed from flock to flock than the flu. My two cents on it is become a NPIP flock, have your flock checked for Avian flu at your annual bleeding and just prepare for what you will do, if it does come to your area, can you isolate your flock?

I do much the same with my dogs, and have for years. No visitors are allowed where I raise my puppies, no exceptions, I cannot have parvo spread to areas where non vaccinated puppies learn to play, love and become good canine citizens. This even includes my Mom, you just have to decide what you can and are willing to do to protect you animals.
Posted by: Lisa in PA

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 12/10/06 05:41 PM

Thank you. That is a very good idea. I have a very small flock and I will find a vet to help me. My regular vet lives on a farm and sells eggs in his office, but when I was there to vaccinate my dogs, I asked about him handling my chickens, he all but laughed at me.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 12/10/06 11:35 PM

I would not bother with my vet, call your state Vet. He/she is usually the one who handles the NPIP program and most states do it for very little cost or none at all. My state just started to do the Avian flu test and are activly seeking partisipant and testing it for free.
Posted by: Lisa in PA

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 02/16/07 04:39 AM

Wow. I had no idea about cats. Thanks for the info. Good cluck (ha ha) with your chickens. -Lisa
Posted by: Poultry Doc

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 06/11/10 08:15 PM

Much Ado about Bird-Flu

In retrospect, I consider the brouhaha on bird flu all but negative hype that resulted into deaths, not from bird-flu afflicted persons, but psychological and economical "deaths" afflicted poultry farmers. The poultry industry downturn from the "bird-flu" affected countries were so severe that it became almost impossible for farmers to come out of financial debts when the brouhaha subsided. There are even reports of actual people deaths coming from farmers committing suicides from depression. And come to think about it, the scare is caused just by alarmist scientists who fear that the disease might eventually get transmitted from human to human, which might start a disease spread of pandemic proportions! And these alarmists became very palatable for media to devour and broadcast that resulted into widespread fear and non-patronage of poultry products. So sad.

Poultry Doc
Posted by: D. Pollock

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 06/11/10 08:42 PM

Wow, Poultry Doc, you're just what the "Doctor" ordered! But I must give a word of caution. You're flying into the mouths of the feeding frenzied mainstream liberal media (the authors of doom and gloom and "bad science"). But I'm sure you know how to fly your aircraft. Thanks for the post.
Posted by: Poultry Doc

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 06/12/10 01:18 AM

Yes, but really I've seen first hand the effect of the news of bird flu in many farmers in Africa and Asia. It's so devastating that nobody wants to buy or even get their products even for free. You have to understand that these are live operations, and their products keep on coming everyday! So where will they get their feeding and labor money if no sales are coming? The sad part is you do not even know if bird flu is really a valid concern or not for humans! Remember that we are only talking of several deaths from bird flu (if indeed it was the only cause of those deaths), while millions die from malaria in Africa alone every year! Sensationalism is the word.

Poultry Doc
Posted by: D. Pollock

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 06/12/10 07:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Poultry Doc
Sensationalism is the word.

Yes, and most assuredly mixed with a heavy dose of fear--naivety and credulity! The so-called concern of our health and well-being, espoused by the elite intelligencers of the "New World Order," should quite honestly be carefully parsed by the common man in the "hinterlands"!
Posted by: TommieAnyan

Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 06/07/12 12:18 AM

The latest thing I heard was that there was a new case just reported in China involving a 10yr old girl. There had been no previous cases reported in her village.
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Re: Bio-Security and Bird Flu - 08/01/12 05:59 PM

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