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#102172 - 02/13/12 11:43 PM Gentics question please help
coolbreeze Offline
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Registered: 02/13/12
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Loc: south east
I have read of Blue Orpington being crossed with Chocolate Orpingtons and the offspring were called Mauve. Will this Mauve offspring breed true?

Thanks for any info it is greatly appreciated.

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#102173 - 02/14/12 12:02 AM Re: Gentics question please help [Re: coolbreeze]
Wieslaw Offline
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Registered: 09/18/09
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Welcome to the coop. The answer is no. Nothing on blue breeds true,

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#102174 - 02/14/12 12:03 AM Re: Gentics question please help [Re: coolbreeze]
Marvin Offline
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Registered: 11/23/06
Posts: 2011
Loc: Nicaragua
Originally Posted By: coolbreeze
I have read of Blue Orpington being crossed with Chocolate Orpingtons and the offspring were called Mauve. Will this Mauve offspring breed true?

Thanks for any info it is greatly appreciated.
welcome to the board coolbreeze! Whatīs your name?

ok back to the question:

andalucian Blue does not breed true... recessive sex link chocolate do, but it needs 2 copies of the gene(or 1 for hen)..

so whats the quickes way to get Mauve? breed a Chocolate rooster to a Blue hen.. out of this cross you will cull(discard) all boys.. just stay with the hens.. 50% of the hens should be Mauve, use these hens and mate them with a none related chocolate roo and you will end with 50% mauve birds(hens and roosters)




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#102175 - 02/14/12 12:23 AM Re: Gentics question please help [Re: Marvin]
Marvin Offline
Lord of the Fowl

Registered: 11/23/06
Posts: 2011
Loc: Nicaragua
Mr. Henk created a nice tool named chicken calculator where you can learn alot..

here is the link
http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html

now this is what I did with it, to show you how I would go about breeding Mauve..(the Khaki colored one is the Mauve, Mauve is not a reconised name as of yet)

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#102179 - 02/14/12 06:34 AM Re: Gentics question please help [Re: Marvin]
Moo Offline
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Registered: 04/29/05
Posts: 411
Loc: Washington
So is it true chocolate that this works with or is it dun? I thought a true chocolate crossed with black/blue would give either black/blue or chocolate depending on how it was bred

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#102197 - 02/14/12 07:37 PM Re: Gentics question please help [Re: Moo]
Wieslaw Offline
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True chocolate is sex-linked recessive.

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#102210 - 02/15/12 07:27 PM Re: Gentics question please help [Re: Moo]
Marvin Offline
Lord of the Fowl

Registered: 11/23/06
Posts: 2011
Loc: Nicaragua
Originally Posted By: Moo
So is it true chocolate that this works with or is it dun?
it can work with both genes.. the name of the Dun/Blue birds is: Platinum Blue cool

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#102213 - 02/15/12 10:41 PM Re: Gentics question please help [Re: Marvin]
coolbreeze Offline
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Registered: 02/13/12
Posts: 2
Loc: south east
Thanks for the help!

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#102506 - 02/26/12 03:24 PM Re: Gentics question please help [Re: coolbreeze]
Smooth Mule Offline
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Registered: 02/13/10
Posts: 671
Loc: Missouri
Interesting. I have some blue Serama hens. I also have 2 chocolate carrier roosters producing chocolate chicks now with chocolate hens so I may have to try this if I get lucky enough that any of my chocolate chicks are cockerels. They're too young to tell yet but by summers end, if I have a chocolate cockerel, I should have some chicks from that type cross. Mine are the sex linked chocolate. I'm still hoping to stumble on a dun Serama somewhere. I would Love to have dun in my flock as well.

I hope breeders with this cross will post photo's of chicks in down, juvenile and mature feathering

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#102518 - 02/27/12 06:19 AM Re: Gentics question please help [Re: coolbreeze]
Terry Offline
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Registered: 02/20/12
Posts: 47
Loc: Qld Australia
Combining Blue with Chocolate with lighten the colour of Chocolate to a lighter brown - combination of the two effects. Blue reduces the eumelanin and chocolate changes eumelanin from black to true brown.
How this combination could be seen as 'Mauve' by anyone sounds strange to me. Do you call that a 'marketing name'?

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