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#110875 - 10/30/13 05:21 PM What color is this?
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Martin Silverud the creator of the Fiftyfive flowery leghorn,also created a couple of other breeds .One is named Queen Silvia and have the same pattern as Brakel (autosomal bared?).Anyway there is this recesive color gene that ocure in the breed I was woundering what it might be?





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#110876 - 10/31/13 10:23 AM Re: What color is this? [Re: BjarneS]
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Nice color! Kjempefin farge! :-)

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#110877 - 11/01/13 07:47 AM Re: What color is this? [Re: Norwegian]
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No ideas what it might be? Smokey have been sugested.

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#110878 - 11/01/13 08:26 AM Re: What color is this? [Re: BjarneS]
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lavender?

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#110879 - 11/01/13 09:37 AM Re: What color is this? [Re: Henk69]
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Isn't it too brownish to be lavender?

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#110880 - 11/01/13 09:48 AM Re: What color is this? [Re: Norwegian]
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Bjarne, Smoky was a mutation on I (dominant white) which never left the institution where it appeared (as far as it is known). If there was no dominant white birds involved, reappearance of Smoky is unlikely.

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#110882 - 11/01/13 11:36 AM Re: What color is this? [Re: Wieslaw]
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Dun?
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#110884 - 11/01/13 12:23 PM Re: What color is this? [Re: Wieslaw]
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No white birds involved since 1976 at least..

To give some background to these bird and the reason why I am asking about them.Recently a group of people interested in the breeds created by Martin Silverudd and other older utility strains of breeds like white leghorn and RIR.Created a club to preserve them.The Queen Silvia was down to a very low number and the different color varieties where all mixed together .
The original created colors where gold autosomal bared (QS gold) silver autosomal bared and gold autosomal bared +sexlinked bared (QS gold bared)like a Cambar.
These people working with this project do not have so much knowledge about color genetics and believed that these pale birds where the autosexing QS gold bared .Realizing that it was probably wrong I have tried (without success) to find a photo of a Cambar to see how the color looks like as adults .I have not found any photos but I have found Punnett article with a description of the bird:it looked very much like a Campine.
Also almost all of the breeding stock are silver.Is it likely to find both of these sexlinked traits traits (silver and sexlinked baring) on the same Z chromosome?
Here is a link to the clubs homepage http://kulturhons.cybersite.nu/1-Queen-Silvia

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#110886 - 11/01/13 12:46 PM Re: What color is this? [Re: BjarneS]
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Hens only have one Z chromosome, so yes.

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#110887 - 11/01/13 12:52 PM Re: What color is this? [Re: Henk69]
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But it reqires a cross over doesn´t it

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