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#116122 - 10/19/16 01:06 PM Re: Definitions(genetic load and others) [Re: John]
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It was a real shame that someone named eb Pg as "Partridge" Wyandottes (& Cochins, Brahmas), as the name Black-breasted Red - Partridge had already been used in UK & Europe for wild-type.

Now it has to be explained that different breeds have different names for wild type, eg Black-breasted Red (USA OEG), Black-breasted Red -Partridge (in Australian OEG, classes depending on gender, ie Black-breasted Red = males, Partridge = females), Black Red - Partridge Modern Games (again depending on gender), Partridge Dutch Bantams (Europe), Gold Partridge Dutch Bantams (UK), Brown Leghorn (UK), Light Brown Leghorn (USA), Golden Salmon Marans (USA), etc....

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#116124 - 10/21/16 07:34 AM Re: Definitions(genetic load and others) [Re: KazJaps]
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Cripers...don't get us going into all the "names" that mean totally the opposite, pending what country you reside in. Aggh...frustration at its finest.

I just read someone posting a Mauve Splash something or other chicken. Good gack! Mauve being, what chocolate/brown and lavender or...so glad we can list the genetic recipes to explain what we have going on and avoid all the "name calling."



On wild type since we won't likely all agree on which variety of Junglefowl (one, some, all?) originated our lovely chicken, how about...


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Wild Type - Colour pattern of the domestic chicken's wild ancestor--no mutations from wild type.


Something to say, this is our "base line" and any changes to wild type come from mutations?

Tara

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#116125 - 10/21/16 09:15 AM Re: Definitions(genetic load and others) [Re: Canuck_Bock_RAT]
John Offline
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Originally Posted By: Canuck_Bock_RAT

On wild type since we won't likely all agree on which variety of Junglefowl (one, some, all?) originated our lovely chicken, how about...


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Wild Type - Colour pattern of the domestic chicken's wild ancestor--no mutations from wild type.


Something to say, this is our "base line" and any changes to wild type come from mutations?

Tara


I was temped to associate Wild Type with "color/pattern", but I didn't think that was enough. The term "Wild Type" isn't just about the e-locus and refers to all the characteristics like combs and skin color, just to name a couple.
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#116128 - 10/21/16 03:31 PM Re: Definitions(genetic load and others) [Re: John]
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On wild type since we won't likely all agree on which variety of Junglefowl (one, some, all?) originated our lovely chicken, how about...


All the old geneticists used Red Jungle fowl as the wild-type standard (& often used RJF for test breeding). Need something to compare to, to define likes & differences (yes, base line).

Note, even the yellow-skin mutation allele in domestic chickens has a different DNA sequence to Gray Jungle fowl (it's proposed ancestor). White skin W+ is the wild-type, w yellow skin is the mutation allele.

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#116617 - 05/10/17 04:36 AM Re: Definitions(genetic load and others) [Re: KazJaps]
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English help wanted: can the noun "pet" be used while talking about a plant (like: this plant is my pet)?

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#116619 - 05/10/17 11:54 AM Re: Definitions(genetic load and others) [Re: Wieslaw]
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The word: "favorite", would be a better choice. "Pet" may be used loosely, for any "favorite", even an inanimate toy, but is not a good choice.

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#116620 - 05/10/17 03:43 PM Re: Definitions(genetic load and others) [Re: CJR]
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Thanks CJR

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#116786 - 08/07/17 03:27 AM Re: Definitions(genetic load and others) [Re: Wieslaw]
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English help wanted again. Here on the forum I have been using a phrase "this hen is built on eb"

1) Would "based on eb" be more suitable?
2) Will such a phrase be understood by people who are not "in the know"?
3)What is the correct name of a short text under a photo (explaining what the photo is showing)
4) Which form is more elegant: "Two females from Mr X's breeding" or "Two females from the breeding of Mr X"

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#116787 - 08/07/17 02:51 PM Re: Definitions(genetic load and others) [Re: Wieslaw]
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Yes, based on would be better.
The term for the explanation that accompanies a photo is the caption.
In terms of elegance, both options are grammatically correct but the first is the contemporary lingua franca whereas the second is somewhat dated and clumsy.
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#116790 - 08/08/17 12:42 PM Re: Definitions(genetic load and others) [Re: Hen-Gen]
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Thanks Hen-Gen.

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