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#116623 - 05/17/17 08:57 PM Genetics of crowing, the length, tone, laugh etc.
Smooth Mule Offline
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Having raised Tomaru for a few years now, and having other breed roosters and some mixed breed projects, I have really become interested in the genetics of the crow. About 4 am.....I have a chorus to listen to. All sorts of very different sounds coming from my roosters. Some a couple syllables, some 3 or 4. All unique.

It's made me wonder about the genetics. Is there a gene for each type crow? There's no real names or designations for the crows so I doubt there has been much interest but does anyone have a link or know of any literature about roosters crows? There are a number of longcrower breeds/types. The Ketawa's laughing crow seems to have the world wanting to hear more. The laughing crow has such a small area of the world where they are found and because of disease, those areas are prohibited from exporting them.

I will post more youtube video's when I can capture the crowing here better but I wanted to share this Tomaru rooster, he is mine. His crow begins with a laugh, stammer or whatever you want to call it, and ends with the typical longcrower crow....not Nearly as long as my other Tomaru roosters...but it's unique and I am working on trying to reproduce it in offspring. I call him my laughing longcrower.

Laughing Longcrower

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#116624 - 05/19/17 04:22 AM Re: Genetics of crowing, the length, tone, laugh etc. [Re: Smooth Mule]
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It must be of course genetic, but I doubt anybody knows anything detailed about it. Somebody would have to make crosses to wild type to find out and so on, and there are not many people(if at all) to do it. At some point I watched many videos on youtube with laughing crows, and as far as I understand, there are several different/distinctive styles with NAMES to them. So it would be much more complicated to find out their mutual relationships. Would be practical to know Indonesian...

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#116625 - 05/19/17 12:07 PM Re: Genetics of crowing, the length, tone, laugh etc. [Re: Wieslaw]
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Here is one called Gretek,have also seen gretek super and garete(the same??)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MnqUgpKZMo

Here is type Disco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT5CzFfSA8E

There are many others like disko kristal, slow dangdut, slow tornado, slow samson, bakka semi slow and many others including mixed??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbVofdUNpxM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZZmhWRYzrU


Slow istimewa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZfgtPu0-Eo

Dangdut
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDyAqBHc9s


Edited by Wieslaw (05/19/17 12:58 PM)
Edit Reason: added links

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#116628 - 05/20/17 11:52 AM Re: Genetics of crowing, the length, tone, laugh etc. [Re: Wieslaw]
Smooth Mule Offline
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Yes, I have friends who speak English in Indonesia but no one seems to know anything. Some breed for a particular type of laugh, some simply wait to see how they crow then call them by the name they most closely match. Very confusing, lol.

No real history on the breed that might suggest what breeds or type or landrace is there either. Just that one "happened" and they made more from that rooster. I plan to line breed and inbreed on my rooster to see what comes of it. I'm breeding him to a Tomaru hen, Fayoumi (because some of my roosters have a londish crow and it's "different". I have 2 Grey Jungle Fowl hybrid hens that are going to him next. One is EE/Grey. Those two hybrid hens plus another Fayoumi hen are with a Pure Grey JF rooster and I'm hatching chicks now. Pullets from that will go to him later, plus some Red JF/Grey-Ceylon cross chicks later as well. Hoping to connect with the right genes sooner than later......

There are only Denizli and Tomaru in the US right now..possibly another type but waiting to hear what it is.

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