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#116911 - 11/11/17 02:18 PM red in sumatras
6Happiness Offline

Registered: 02/25/11
Posts: 21
Loc: IL, USA
i took in these 2 roosters as the person with them couldnt keep them due to the crowing in the city....
they are young in these photos... tails have grown somemore.
but they have a lot of red in the plumage and the combs, wattles seem light to me. i saw a thread on byc forum about red black sumatras, but they were mainly black with just a little leakage if red.
my gut instinct is they're a cross... especially as they are from a classroom breeding project and parents are unknown (nor is hatchery/farm source) i'm thinking maybe black breasted red phoenix, but figured i'd check with others who know the breed better than I. I only had one hen but gave her away.

so opinions... red black sumatras or a sumatra cross (with bbr phoenix or something else)? would a cross to a 'chipmunk' chick downed breed clarify if its the cross i'm suspecting?

Alan ~ Far West Chicago Suburbs

#116927 - 11/27/17 01:16 PM Re: red in sumatras [Re: 6Happiness]
Wieslaw Offline
Classroom Professor

Registered: 09/18/09
Posts: 3858
Loc: Denmark
A cross between black and bbr gave the same extension of eumelanie and pheomelanine for me. The problematic thing here is the intensity of the red. If the bbr was "normal gold", then it looks like the dark red could have been hidden in the blacks

#117245 - 07/25/18 07:58 PM Re: red in sumatras [Re: Wieslaw]
Smooth Mule Offline
Coop Keeper

Registered: 02/13/10
Posts: 660
Loc: Missouri
Absolutely crossed


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