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#117328 - 12/08/18 08:59 AM Bull neck
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I do not know if it was mentioned in any genetic books. The boulé present in many Old Polish Crested is inherited dominantly and autosomally. Just for the record.

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#117329 - 12/09/18 09:01 AM Re: Bull neck [Re: Wieslaw]
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Thanks Wieslaw. This is not a feature I have encountered elsewhere in the literature so it is useful to know of its mode of inheritance.
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#117330 - 12/10/18 11:57 PM Re: Bull neck [Re: Hen-Gen]
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Thanks Wieslaw.
Was the boule associated with muff/beard in these Polish? Was wondering if you could still get the boule without Mb gene.

I think in the d'Uccles it helped if the feathering was softer, like in Pekins /Cochins. Although possibly not necessary. I'll have to check out muff/bearded gamefowl, see if much difference.

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#117333 - 12/11/18 10:03 AM Re: Bull neck [Re: KazJaps]
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Yes, it was associated with muff/beard. To be frank, I have not been thinking about it before. Thanks for making me aware about possible association.

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#117334 - 12/11/18 03:10 PM Re: Bull neck [Re: Wieslaw]
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The boule/ bull neck is a Standard requirement in Belgian Bearded Bantams, a full boule neck a highly desired trait, but it hadn't crossed my mind with other bearded breeds.

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#117350 - 01/06/19 05:54 AM Re: Bull neck [Re: KazJaps]
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That has made me really curious. All af my bull necks are bearded. Now the question is : can the bull neck be present at all in non-bearded?? Has anybody seen it?

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#117355 - 01/10/19 11:03 PM Re: Bull neck [Re: Wieslaw]
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http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=114903#Post114903
Happy New Year to everybody ... According to these pictures of ac1993 it seems to be possible in non-bearded birds.
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#117357 - 01/11/19 07:05 AM Re: Bull neck [Re: Redcap]
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Originally Posted By: Redcap
http://www.the-coop.org/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=114903#Post114903
Happy New Year to everybody ... According to these pictures of ac1993 it seems to be possible in non-bearded birds.


Happy New Year too.

I had these distorted neck feathers ac1993 has posted about on a male Buschhuhn (sort of Javanaise) chicken, and to a lesser extent on one of his sisters. I don't think it's the same than bull neck in Orloffs or Belgian bearded bantams. It looks quite different, rather like windblown. Some feathers halfway up the neck are turned outward.

It is common and wanted in iranian Lari Aseel: http://www.asilclub.spruz.com/view/photo/photos.htm?id=B089C204-2790-4BDD-B431-E7D8DF9F5E38

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#117358 - 01/12/19 10:26 PM Re: Bull neck [Re: dingsda]
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Thanks guys. Those old threads are a real treasure trove.

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