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#19458 - 05/22/07 04:50 PM Hen wasting away
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I just noticed that one of my more 'skittish' hens was acting sort of subdued. She is not fluffed up, but just seems under the weather to me. When I picked her up I could not believe how thin she was. I mean, her breast bone is so prominent, there is no meat on her at all......I am really good about worming and actually just did the second round about 3 weeks ago. Is there anything else that this could be due to?? I don't want to lose her, but there is definitely something wrong. Everyone else seems to be of a healthy weight, but I am going to check on all of the girls tonight when I lock up the coop.

Any thoughts would be welcome. I don't know whether to bring her inside or not as I have 5 newly hatched babies I am taking care of. I could worm her again--maybe she somehow escaped the dosage??

Monica

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#19459 - 05/23/07 05:41 AM Re: Hen wasting away
Susie Offline
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I don't know what's wrong with her but be warned that worming her right now could be the final straw. It's a poison and not handled well by a sick bird.

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#19460 - 05/23/07 06:19 AM Re: Hen wasting away
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Ah. Well, I did not know that. Hmmm. Well, this morning, I took her aside and gave her some treats. Her appetite seems ok. I had her eat some roasted garlic, which I have heard will kill off bacteria and the worms don't like it much either. Hmmm. I guess then I wait and see?? I checked everyone else in the coop last night and no one is underweight so it is just confined to her. She is like a bag of feathers. Its really awful.

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#19461 - 05/23/07 04:41 PM Re: Hen wasting away
Lisa Robinson Offline
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Registered: 05/17/06
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Loc: Australia
that sounds like what just happened to me, i lost 1 chook and 1 chick to cossidiosis, everyone else is very healthy and unaffected.
does your sick girl have runny poo right now?
dont let her suffer to much, my chick died on its own quickly, but mum was suffering, and we had to put her down, as I believe trying to save her at that point would have only been cruel to her. And possibly risky for the rest of the flock. good luck, I hope you figure out what to do soon. cheers lisa

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#19462 - 05/23/07 05:16 PM Re: Hen wasting away
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Hmm. I don't know if her poo is runny, but I will cage her tonight in the coop and check it out. Poor girl. She was very wobbly today--kind of weak. She is eating well though for the most part. I picked her up and let her eat freely out of my hand and she just ate and ate. I am really concerned.

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#19463 - 05/24/07 04:24 AM Re: Hen wasting away
Kathy W. Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
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Loc: New York
Since fall I have lost 4 hens and last night a five week old chick to illness displaying the same symptoms. These symptoms are discussed from time to time in these posts and based on them I assume that this is coccidiosis. The deaths in my flock (flock size about 50 birds) have been spread out over 10 months or so. Seems to me that the flock "has" it and from time to time it gets out of whack and somebody dies.

The chick death distresses me particularly because I cleaned their little coop with bleach before putting this batch of chicks in. Their coop is next to but separate from the adult coops on either side. There is a barrier (plastic tarp stapled to the chicken wire) between the chick coop and the adult coops. It doesn't seem that chicken manure with the coccidial oocysts should be able to get in there. Of course, they could get there on my shoes ...

Once I can get all the birds into outside pens I plan to clean the barn coops as thoroughly as I can and let them air for the rest of the summer.

My question: I'm thinking it would be a good idea to switch the chicks to a medicated feed. Given their age, would this be of any use if they are infected with coccidia?

Kathy

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#19464 - 05/24/07 05:05 AM Re: Hen wasting away
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Loc: Florida
Do the chicks have bloody poops? I have had coccidiosis in one batch of baby chicks and it was really easy to clear up with Sulmet. In just a few days, everyone was normal and we never had a problem again. I don't know that the medicated feed has enough of a dosage to do the trick, but I am sure someone else here will know the answer.

I am going to get Penny (her name) in this morning and watch her to see what the poop is looking like. I dunno. Coccdiosis would be nice--its so easy to deal with!

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#19465 - 05/24/07 06:18 AM Re: Hen wasting away
Oakie Offline
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Registered: 08/30/02
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Loc: Oklahoma
If caught early enough Cocci can be treated with Sulmet. I have heard that it is nearly impossible to get rid of though. You have to keep your coops dry otherwise it is a breeding ground for Cocci. Chicks are very vulnerabe to it and will die quickly. It seems that adult birds can recover from it quickly if treated. My dad had a problem with it and we finally decided to move the coop and start over.

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#19466 - 05/24/07 06:22 AM Re: Hen wasting away
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Penny's poop is slightly runny, but not too bad. No blood. Now what?

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#19467 - 05/26/07 03:30 PM Re: Hen wasting away
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Penny is still hanging in there, although I have to say, her condition seems worse. She is really unable to stand now she is so weak. But she is alert otherwise. Her poop is just fine. And her appetite is good. I put her on antibiotics, which I don't really like to do, especially without knowing what she has, but she is fighting and so I would like to help her if I can. I don't know what else to do for her. Every morning, I go down to the coop and expect to see her dead, but instead, she is blinking at me with a look that says, 'Yup, I am STILL here!'.

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