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Has anyone had any Blue Laced Red Americanas?

I have a pair, and I plan on breeding them next year by them selves to build up the color. They are very beautiful, and maybe on a sunny day I can get a good photo of them! I think this is where the one that hatched the other day came from! You can see him on my other post, under incubation\raising chicks but I was just wandering if anyone has any of these?

They look like this, but this is not them. This is a Blue Laced Red Wyandotte!

There are only eight APA/ABA recognized Ameraucana varieties at this time, and blue-laced red is not one of them.

ok, well maybe it is a cross between a red and blue? But All I know is I have a pair that I got from a guy and they are beautiful. Maybe I can breed and create a new color for the apa/aba! Thanks for the reply rhea dean carter, nice to speak with you again!

That's how new varieties are developed. Keep in mind they have to exhibit all of the characteristics of an Ameraucana in order to be an accepted variety. These include white skin, slate legs, white footpads, beard, muffs, pea comb, red earlobes, and of course lay bluish-green eggs.

I know of one breeder who is working on lavender Ameraucanas, and I've seen photos of bantam red Ameraucanas. A few breeders are working with a new variety called black gold and hope to get it standardized soon.

oh cool, well i will keep everyone updated, and i will get pics soon of them! I will breed them, and get oppinions. Well thanks.

I would be quite interested in such a color. I love the Blue Laced Red color.

Rachel, even though they are not in the standard, i will be selling them on my site some next year, you will get some when you order the americaunas

Danny, the way you spell "Ameraucanas" leads me to believe you don't have APA/ABA recognized Ameraucanas. Do you have some of the eight APA/ABA recognized Ameraucana varieties, or are they cross-bred hybrids known as Easter Eggers?

www.ameraucana.org

they are true Ameraucanas but i spell them the fastest easiest way, just like i do on my site.

>>>>I know of one breeder who is working on lavender Ameraucanas, and I've seen photos of bantam red Ameraucanas. A few breeders are working with a new variety called black gold and hope to get it standardized soon.

Rhea, can you tell us more about the black gold colour? Sounds interesting

I think I have supplied the lavender birds for the start of breeding bantam lavender ameraucanas.

I would certainly be interested is seen a picture of the blue laced red ameraucana. I have the wyandottes, have some white ameraucanas and will soon be getting some black, if I can ever get Paul Smiths address to send him a check lol.

BC Breeder, I've only seen them one time at the 2003 Ameraucana National Meet in Lucasville, Ohio; and only bantams were being shown at that show. If memory serves me correctly, they were developed by breeding buff x red brown. They sort of look like the red brown variety but have gold colored feathers in the hackle instead of red brown.

I did some research and found the following thread that has some information and photos of black gold Ameraucanas.

http://groups.msn.com/ABCShareingPlace/i...35&all_topics=1

I am working on birchen and blue silvers with my ameraucanas, but I've only started this year so I don't have much yet exept for a kinda birchen colored pullet and a blue silver rooster.

@Danny prichett- maybe you should write the proper name, Americanas are usually the mutts hatcheries sell. When I read website that you breed americanas I though your breeding those mutts and nothin pure.

Ok, well I will change the spelling, and as soon as I get something very important to put up, i will upload the page to my server. I will get a picture of the Ameraucanas as soon as I get a chance, im hoping to take one by monday afternoon! If all goes well, I got 2 eggs from them in the last 2 days so im going to see how they do, as in when they hatch how the color stays, so far so well. Thanks.

i order some Ameraucanas from a hatchery and started looking at pics none looked like mine. until i saw the black gold. all my hens look like that but one has blue tail feathers. does anyone know were i can get more info on the eight apa/aba ameraucana varieties.

Their is a book out I know, I think their website tells also. http://www.ameraucana.org/history.html

I found this information...

I believe thats it, I would have to find my book to make sure, lol.

i was wondering it said the legs are a blue slate. what color are yours. the ones i got from the hatchery has blue slate legs but i hatch out some that have blue green and yellow legs not on the same chicken. they have the beard.

mine are blue slate, and yellow shouldnt at all be into the birds, so obviously yours are the "Mutts" as they mention above!

the yellow ones i got the eggs from someone in texas. spring time come around i will see about getting some from you if your selling any. right now i have around 250 birds.

cool, hey i you have aim or yim contact me that way, its easier than me checking my email, and getting to the post again, lol.

im not telling you may password, but my yahoo id is dannypritchett thats all you need to know to contact me on yahoo messenger!

whats your yahoo id, Y!TunnelPro Blocked your message, and when i opened the message, it somehow closed it.

Thanks Rhea, that was helpful.

So basically the Black Golden is an e^b (partridge) base? We have several of those ginger/partridge looking hens running around. Haven't been selecting for that colour, but they seem to persist when I do my egg colour selections.

Found the Brown Red pullet photos confusing, they seem to take the brown name literally. Always considered the brown red pullet to be a black bird with red hackle and neck lacing.

sorry I havent got pics yet! I will just let everyone know when i get them!

Danny you must have some hybrid cross.
Sure would like to see photos of them though.

The vast majority of the so called Ameraucanas sold via eggbid and hatcheries simply aren't the real McCoy. They are Easter Eggers.
Even many private breeders who claim they have Ameraucanas don't.
If anybody is serious about learning more about Ameraucanas you get get information at the Ameraucanas Breeders Club webite:
http://www.ameraucana.org/
Or ABC Sharing Place:
http://groups.msn.com/ABCShareingPlace/yourwebpage1.msnw
Both websites have forums, photos and helpful information.

I got these from a breeder that says he is in the americauna breeding club, but some of these i dont think are, so when i make a copy of my hard disk im going to put easter egg chickens instead of americaunas i guess, i know some are but not all maybe ill do easter egg/americauna cross or something, any one have the real mccoy to get me started?

Hi Danny...
Just because the person said he's a member of the ABC doesn't mean he has real Ameraucanas.
Alot of people think they have Ameraucanas but they really have Easter Eggers and I think this is mainly due to a lack of education on the breed. Many hatcheries sell Easter Eggers but call them Ameraucanas and sell them to unsuspecting (uneducated on the breed) buyers. Unfortunately this is very common. But the ABC ahas been trying to change this through education of the breed.

Here is an article geared towards beginners that might help you determine what you have.
It describes the 8 standard colors and the breed traits to look for.
You will find a list of Ameraucana breeders on the websites I provided above.
http://groups.msn.com/ABCShareingPlace/ameraucanamythsandfacts.msnw

But hey, there is nothing wrong with raising and selling Easter Eggers...just don't pass them off as Ameraucanas.
Good luck and keep us posted.

Hey,
I see you raise Blue & black large fowl, as do I. Who am I talking to?

yea their is nothing wrong with it, i seem to have both, but I want nothing but pure ameraucanas! I will see about the breed!

& See about breeders! Anyone of you want to supply me with a few blue and black chicks? Or eggs?

Danny check out the breeders listings on the websites I gave you links to in order to find a breeder near you.
The Ameraucana national show will be in Michigan next year incase you can make it.

Vicky,
Would have liked to have seen you in Sedalia this last weekend for the Ameraucana National. It was a lot of fun, and the top breeders were there. Naturally, I didn't win (Gilbert, Blehm, and Smith were there) but I took three second places and one fifth place out of the six birds that I took. I'm good with that!
Yes Danny, they're the real thing. Vicky also has some fantastic Ameraucanas. Talk nice to her, and she may send you some eggs.

Angela
Sounds like you had a good time at the National show and congrats on those wins. Those are pretty good considering it was a nat.l show with all the top exhibitors. I don't show because I'm a freak about not bringing diseases home and I use to show horses and dogs and got over the show bug thingie...BUT I will be at the 2006 national show since afterall it will be in my home state of Michigan. YEAH!!

Thanks, I will check Vicky would you sell some eggs in spring?

Danny
I doubt I will have any extra eggs for sale in 2006 but do check out some of the other breeders on those websites I referred you to.
John Blehm has some nice blacks and blues (and other colors too) but doesn't sell hatching eggs, but you can get day old chicks. Order early because he sells out early every year.
Heres his website:
http://www.chickhatchery.com/
Good Luck!

Danny, if I had known, I would have been glad to send you some hatching eggs from my black and blue Ameraucanas. I'm getting ready to give them away to a friend of mine. Perhaps he will send you some hatching eggs from them in the spring. If you're interested later on, send me a PM, and I'll send you his E-mail address and telephone number.

Rhea Dean...are you getting out of Ameraucanas or just those colors?

Danny, I breed the lf blues and blacks. If you seriously want eggs, see me in the spring. I'll be more than happy to send some your way.

I'm getting out of the Ameraucanas. When I bought them in 2003 (2 males and 14 females), I was under the impression they lay blue eggs. None of mine lay blue eggs but various shades of green, and some of the shades of green are down right ugly! Needless to say, I've been very disappointed since I paid $25 each for them.

Yeah, that's kinda misleading about the Ameraucanas. Most lay a green tinted egg. I have a couple that lay robin's egg blue, and a couple that lay an ice blue, but for the most part, it's shades of green.
The egg color is a work in progress. The breeder's are culling birds based on the egg color, trying to make it a purer blue. I do not have the hang of it! I get varying results every year.

thanks everyone!

Rhea Dean, what are ya gonna do now? I think I read somewhere you are working on something else?

Rob, I've ordered some black, blue, and white Jersey Giant chicks from Randy Henry in California but haven't gotten them yet. I've decided I want some really big chickens!

I also want to develop bantam lavender Cochins. I really like that soft powder blue color and the fact that it breeds true.

http://www.poultrymad.co.uk/chickens/pekin.shtml

Wow! Rhea Dean I have never heard of $25. per bird prices unless they were show winners!
Its true, alot of Ameraucanas lay a pale green egg and like Angela said some range from pale robins egg blue to powder blue.
Sorry you were so disappointed.
Best wishes with your JG's and Cochins.

I did pay $20.00 for a grown cockerel from Paul Smith a few years ago...I could see prices on the birds escalating with time. Especially if they are Gilbert, Blehms, Smiths or Barbara Campbells. Name recognition is always worth a few bucks. Besides, a good bird is worth every dime for breeding stock.
Still, if you can get a good line of Giants, what a coup!

I hear you on egg colour complaints. I feel the ameraucanas have been outcrossed to non blue egg laying breeds too many times and have lost many of the genetic modifiers that deepen the blue egg colour.

Despite having quality award winning stock a couple years ago, I decided to outcross my ameraucanas to improve egg colour. I crossed them to select araucana stock and south american stock. A couple generations later, they are back to winning awards and won AOSB last weekend at our big provincial show. Now with nice egg colour. Mind you, I'm not happy and feel they still have lots of room for improvement. Takes a while to fix the bad that comes with the good in an outcross.

Improving the egg colour with the outcross was the easy part, maintaining it will be a challange. It will require selecting according to family data, not just by selecting birds with the bluest eggs.

Ameraucanas are such a young breed. It will take time to work out all the kinks. I noticed in silver Ameraucanas that had OEG and Leghorns behind them, have bluer eggs.
BC Breeder...what color eggs are you getting with your Araucanas? Do you have photos?

I'm not so much concerned with egg color, as I am with size. I think my stock is shrinking....LOL
Seriously, they do not have the size on them that I would like, so I'm doing a little creative breeding on my own. I'm on generation two of an orp/ameraucana cross. I'm sticking primarily with the cockerels, and I am encouraged. If it doesn't pan out, they'll still taste good.

This has to be the most replys and of my posts have gotten, I have to go bye!

Does anyone's eggs look like these? They came from blue wheaton ameracaunas!

the brown and white looking one is a maran, and leghorn i think

I think that mine look like that from my ameraucanas. Pictures are always hard to tell from.Mine started off much more blue than that when they first started laying. All of my birds are molting right now and not laying or I would take a pic of my eggs. If I get one I will post it.

Yay Rhea Dean! I'm so happy for you! I wanted to tell you that my birds have successfully gotten the slate color you were talking about! They are gorgeous! Is there any way when you get your flock going that I could purchase chicks or eggs? Thank you! I think it's great that there are going to be more breeders of White Giants!

Danny, your thread is so long because people are killing time waiting for you to post photos of your "Blue Laced Red Ameraucanas".
So whats the hold up?

well i found out they are not pure ameraucanas, thats why i havent posted any pics, they are easter eggers! I am looking for pure ameraucanas! If someone wants a pic of generation one of my easter egger rooster ill take one tomorrow!

well i dont think they are, maybe you all can tell by the pic that i take, its hard to get birds out of the pen where i have them so ill have to take it through the wire, we are still building easy access large pens for them.

i know they are laying beautiful not green but blue eggs. I have been getting one every day from the hen of the blue laced red generation one, and one from my blue wheaton colored hen. I think some are ameraucanas and some are easter eggers. One is a clean faced, tailed araucana. She is black, i let her stay with them to see if any chicks are rumpless or tufted, so far one was tufted, none rumpless! Well thanks, let me know if you want to see a pic of the (UNKNOWNS), lol

Yah, I'd like to see pics of the Blue Laced Red whatevers you have.
Where did that BLR color come from?
Wyandottes?
If so, how do you get first generation crossed blue X brown eggs layers to lay blue eggs?

well they were first bred by my ffa teacher, then he gave them to me. He dont care to much for chickens. I dont know what he did, i just know this is the first offspring the father died, of them and I dont know what the mother was! I may have her too!

You'll never figure out the genetics!
Post the pictures, and let's have a look. If the sire would have to be an EE in order to have the genetic trait. Probably both of them are, somewhere.....

As promised here is a photo of the Blue Laced Red Whatever I have gotten with my blue egg layers! I dont know if he is an easter egger or an americauna! But here is multiple photos of the coloring all together! I can post a bigger one if you need! But i figured this would do!

Well that is very interesting!
I don't know how you would retain that color if you bred him to improve for Ameraucana traits.
What kind of comb is that?
I can't tell.
Kind of a lumpy looking single comb?
Did you get just one that color?
What color are his siblings?
What color are his parents?

i dont have the parents i dont think, i may but dont know, generation one was obtained from my ffa teacher last year! siblings are just a few days old so I dont know yet! The comb is wierd looking, like you said maybe a single. I have a hen but she dont have the lacing, but she has the colors! So im using her for them!

Wow, pictures are really hard to make out, but, he does appear to have as much lacing as my BLR Wyandottes. That comb, looks single, but large and floppy, but he obviously has the beard and muffs.

The weird thing is, its not the typial BLR color and markings. The BLR Wyandottes do not have solid blue heads and tails like this guy.

yea i know, he has the blue laced red marking all over the front of his chest, and under him. I am going to keep breeding for more blue laced red marking and get a solid easter egger! Thanks. Bye.

I've seen that type of comb before on hatchery "Aracaunas". Easter Egger for sure. Had a red one with black lacing a few years ago, that looked just like him. The comb is a HUGE pea type comb that actually kinda bubbles up....

yea, i am still looking for the Pure stuff, if i get eggs in spring the rest of these easter eggers or whatever they are, are gone!

Danny if you are interested in standard bred Ameraucanas you might want to seek out helpful information available on the Ameraucana Breeders Club and ABC Sharing Place websites.

thanks, well im closing this its too old

Moderators please delete this topic! It is old. Thanks. I tried but it said i couldnt!