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#67040 - 05/18/06 02:21 AM what to do about crows
Lisa Robinson Offline
Coop Cleaner

Registered: 05/17/06
Posts: 161
Loc: Australia
there are alot of crows in my area, and they are taking eggs from many people, and this is perhaps the reason i have no eggs from 4 good hens, how do i beat the problem of crows. would killing one help

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#67041 - 05/18/06 04:51 AM Re: what to do about crows
Jo Jo Offline
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Registered: 04/14/04
Posts: 309
Loc: Massachusetts
Wow - how big are Australian Crows? The crows here will steal eggs and chicks from wild-bird nests, but I dont think they could carry a chicken egg. I wouldnt put it past them to eat it in the nest though.
We actually like the crows, because they warn the hens about the resident hawk. -jo

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#67042 - 05/18/06 04:17 PM Re: what to do about crows
Lisa Robinson Offline
Coop Cleaner

Registered: 05/17/06
Posts: 161
Loc: Australia
australian crows are vrey big, and carry chicken eggs away in their beaks, they are a big menace over here, but maybe i should be lucky we dont have any hawks like you do.
thanks alot for your response smile

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#67043 - 05/18/06 05:54 PM Re: what to do about crows
David T. Offline
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Registered: 04/06/05
Posts: 298
Loc: Australia
Hello Lisa,

We solved the wild birds getting in the coop problem by totally enclosing the coop/run and only having a small (chicken size) door. Most of the wild birds, and none of the larger ones, no longer get into the coop. Our chooks donít like the larger predatory birds like magpies and ravens and actively chase them off (or call a human to do so). I believe that if you had birds stealing all your eggs everyday you would know.

As you said, at least they donít attack adult chooks.
David

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#67044 - 05/18/06 07:35 PM Re: what to do about crows
Jeniece C. Offline
Feather

Registered: 03/17/06
Posts: 43
Loc: Washington
I have quite a lot of crows also ..They do take some eggs..If I get them early enough you can get them first ..At first I got really frustrated when I saw them but, they have saved allot of my chickens and ducks ..They will gang up on a hawks or eagles and chase them away I have even seen them go after a few cranes that was tiring to eat my fish in my ponds ..

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#67045 - 05/19/06 06:49 AM Re: what to do about crows
Cranberry Creek Offline
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Registered: 11/18/05
Posts: 211
Loc: Canada
I for one hate crows and hawks, because I love to watch and help wild song birds and it makes me very mad to see a crow carry off a baby bird.

My chickens lay eggs inside the chicken coop and we have the whole area screened in from the sides as well as the top to prevent areal attacks. We have enough trouble with ground rodents. There was one especially sneaky racoon that found a bit of wire that wasn't stapled down and folded it up so so that the wire couldn't cut him and ate half a chicken right inside the chicken coop. They are nasty preditors. and darn hard to trap to.

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#67046 - 05/20/06 03:30 AM Re: what to do about crows
Lisa Robinson Offline
Coop Cleaner

Registered: 05/17/06
Posts: 161
Loc: Australia
you poor folk in america have alot of preditors to deal with, i had no idea cute little racoons{only seen by me on tv) would actually eat your chickens, i am shocked, and starting to feel gratefull the crows are my only menace. I guess the only option now is to enclose the whole pen grrr, darned crows.
thanks for all responses

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#67047 - 05/27/06 08:07 AM Re: what to do about crows
CJR Offline
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Registered: 07/16/02
Posts: 8490
Loc: Montana
Predators are like the sunshine and the rain--we will have them at some time! And like sunshades and roofs and umbrellas, we protect ourselves from both when necessary. To avoid predator loss, we simply have to fence, screen, enclose at times (night for some of them).

Where I live: the fox or the lynx or bobcat,will take one bird and leave (return next night for another.) The raccoon will kill everything that moves and may take one "home", leaving a slaughter house. The skunk prefers eggs, fresh is okay, but the farther along in incubation is gourmet choice, however will take home a bird if the right size. The weasel will kill by attack to the neck of the bird, just one at a time, they often will eat the head and leave, if they cannot drag the bird away, but they enjoy chicks as either an appetizer or entree. Mink usually eats at the "restaurant" and may not come back, if a roving connaisseur. Hawks drop in and according to size will peel feathers, some or all, to reduce weight and may eat the head,then carry as far as convenient to feast, if a small hawk, or carry the whole bird away if a large one. Owls also will take off the head and carry the rest with them. Hawks, cats, always leave a some of the feathers, where they hit and catch--a clue if it was from the sky. They do not wait for a Doggy bag. Dogs, one or a pack leave a horrible mess of feathers and carcasses. Eating is not their purpose--just casino fun. The 3 Bears (or just one) break down the door or window or fence--and leave chaos and a SMELL! I have more predators about, than those mentioned, but I don't have snakes, rats, possums or some of the other predators, thank goodness--enough is enough! But ONE loss to several of them closed My CAFE, and I no longer serve chicken except by invitation at my own table! It is up to you. Unlike many poultry people, I do not think free range is funny or necessary, and not a bit better than confined grazing--just easy and too risky for my birds--I have none to waste! CJR

I do keep a 22 by the door at times, and one Magpie lying in the pasture is deterant to that species. Other varmints are not warned in that way--are individuals. I enjoy wildlife, have lots of habitat variety on my farm--and as long as they do not bother my chickens, they are part of my farm! Now deer? 80 on a 10 acre hay field are also varmints! A single young elk joined them last fall. CJR

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#67048 - 05/27/06 03:34 PM Re: what to do about crows
Lisa Robinson Offline
Coop Cleaner

Registered: 05/17/06
Posts: 161
Loc: Australia
flyfisher, trust me, if the laws allowed it, i would have an air rifle, were not allowed any guns at all anymore. and now im a bit more educated on the racoon, i'll never call it cute again.
cjr, im lucky i dont have problems with the snakes,the dog keeps them away, the rats are only a few, the cat takes care of them, and the possums are vegetarian, they never take birds or eggs, and also the magpies dont take eggs etc here, i have actually befriended a magpie family and feed them every day, maybe thats why they leave us alone.
but those bloody crows get the better of everyone
over here, they are very large, very fast, and for some unknown reason, are protected (god only knows why).
its a real shame you had to shut your diner, thanks to preditors, and in that situation i would not let my chooks out at all.
thanks lisa

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#67049 - 05/27/06 04:52 PM Re: what to do about crows
Katielulu Offline
Bantam

Registered: 03/28/05
Posts: 46
Loc: Virginia
Well Lis 77, I'm sorry ya'll can't have guns. Guns and a good dog has helped us stay pretty much varment free. We did have a run in with a few big black snakes (they love eggs). But we shot and killed them. And one old coon visited us once or twice but it got ran over one night so since then we been lucky.Take the advice about wired in runs, save you a lot of heartache in the long run.

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