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#70084 - 02/05/07 08:08 AM baby chick shipping nightmere
Dolly Llama Offline
Feather

Registered: 12/05/06
Posts: 30
Loc: Iowa
I was eagerly awaiting the arrival of my baby chicks from McMurray Hatchery this morning. However I was shocked and heartbroken when I opened the box to find that almost all of them appeared to be dead. About 65 in all. After shedding a few tears, I rushed them home to put under the heat lamp in hopes that a few might survive. I was amazed that chicks that appeared dead, would be able to come back around in such a short time. Though most are dead, there are about 15 to 20 that might make it. I called the Hatchery and had a few choice words with them about shipping these poor little chicks when it is sooooo cold here. It has been in the negatives to around 5 degrees for the last week and a half and that's not including the wind chill. I felt so sorry for the poor little things that had to sit over the weekend in a cold mail truck. I wish the hatchery could have held them until today (so they came right here) or else called me to possibly pick them up. I live about 2 hours from the hatchery, but would be glad to drive that far if it meant saving their lives. I realize that they ship such a large quantity that they probably couldn't call everyone like this, but shouldn't they have some provisions in cases of weather like this? They have agreed to replace my entire order for next week however we are going to drive up there and pick them up, so this tragedy doesn't happen again. Has anyone else had a nightmere like this happen? frown

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#70085 - 02/05/07 08:58 AM Re: baby chick shipping nightmere
Rhea Dean Carter Offline
Lord of the Fowl

Registered: 07/24/03
Posts: 1379
Loc: Tennessee
Did you specify a shipping date when you placed the order?
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#70086 - 02/05/07 08:59 AM Re: baby chick shipping nightmere
Rog Offline
Ruler of the Roost

Registered: 07/17/02
Posts: 775
Loc: Missouri
Sorry for the lose of the chicks but sometimes I just don`t get it. 1. Why did the hatchery ship the chicks to start with in this weather ? 2. Were they drop shipped from elseware? 3. Why did the PO accept the shipment to begin with ? 4. And if you lived close enough to go get them why didn`t you go get them to start with ? Rog
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#70087 - 02/05/07 10:12 AM Re: baby chick shipping nightmere
Dolly Llama Offline
Feather

Registered: 12/05/06
Posts: 30
Loc: Iowa
Well, I'm sorry that you are blaming me for this happening, because I didn't go and pick them up. Shipping cost was cheaper than 4 hours worth of gas. I guess I trusted that the hatchery knew what they were doing. We've ordered them for this time of year the past 2 years and never had a problem. From now on, I guess I'll think twice about having them shipped. We try to get them early enough, so they are fairly mature for my kids to show at the fair. As an update, I counted the chicks and they sent me approximately 90 in all (I only ordered 65). 49 were saved under the heat lamp. It was like watching them rise from the dead. I'm at least happy about that. Those were some pretty tough little chicks.

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#70088 - 02/05/07 10:17 AM Re: baby chick shipping nightmere
Ducks-n-Geese Offline
Chicken

Registered: 12/13/06
Posts: 120
Loc: Louisiana
I had a problem last year with Metzer farms and my Post office. 6 of 12 mallards were dead on arrival.

I live in a rural area and they were shipped priority. What I learned is that I have to have them shipped express mail and then I have to ship them to the main post office in the next town over who calls me when they get there. This saves 1-2 days on delivery (cause 2 day express takes 2.5 days here to the next town's P.O.)

I'm sorry for your heartbreak. I know how you feel. ((((hugs))))

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#70089 - 02/05/07 10:27 AM Re: baby chick shipping nightmere
Dolly Llama Offline
Feather

Registered: 12/05/06
Posts: 30
Loc: Iowa
Thanks, I appreciate the sympathy. Now I seem to feel that it is my fault. Does your main post office in the next town over call you on Sunday? The lady at the post office said that some of the larger post offices receive mail on Sunday, so you could possibly have them shipped there. My post office is small and isn't open on Sunday.

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#70090 - 02/05/07 10:54 AM Re: baby chick shipping nightmere
Ducks-n-Geese Offline
Chicken

Registered: 12/13/06
Posts: 120
Loc: Louisiana
Yes, the main post office of the next town receives mail 24/7. The last time, they called me a 4:30 am on a Sunday morning. (I had told them to call me whenever).

What they suggest is to not address it to you in care of their address (which is what I had been doing).. but to address it to yourself and then tell them a day or two before to hold them and give them a note with your numbers. But I address it to myself in their % at their address anyway because then it has a stopping point. I have done this numerous times (I think *technically* they can send the mail back if you do that but with live birds I believe they wouldn't.. but with the PO you never know) and they always poo poo that I did it but nothing bad has ever happened. I'm done for the near future so I don't think it matters any more.

Oh, I also have the sender put on the outside of the box right below the address: WILL PICK UP PLEASE CALL 123-433-0000

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#70091 - 02/05/07 07:14 PM Re: baby chick shipping nightmere
Wyattdogster Offline
Coop Keeper

Registered: 09/22/05
Posts: 493
Loc: Virginia
Last Feb, my chicks were due in on a Monday...frigid temps in the teens. I was worried sick since it was my first time with shipped chicks. Fortunately for me, the attendant at the USPS terminal at Washington Dulles airport had the sense to call me Sunday morning when they arrived and he strongly suggested that I come pick them up and not wait till they were delivered to my local post office. We were there within the hour to pick them up. There were several other shipments from McMurray...you should have heard the peeping in this cold, cavernous warehouse!! The attendant opened the box to make sure they were all OK. He was very helpful. I shudder to think what might have become of them if they had to sit there all night. I had 15 extras (packing material) red-star cockerels "added for warmth". Not a welcome surprise as I had to rearrange my set-up to have room for them. These were relocated when they were 3 weeks old.
Good luck with the survivors...and I am so sorry this happened...how sad.

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#70092 - 02/06/07 01:00 PM Re: baby chick shipping nightmere
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Its a bummer to have so many dead chicks. We too had a delivery from Murray McMurray on Monday. We called on Saturday to see if they were actually sending them. We are in Wisc. and same thing with the weather. They said the order was already sent and if connections were good the chicks would arrive on Sunday, and IF someone worked on Sunday at the Post Office we would get a call. In reality they did not arrive until Monday and rode up front with the truck driver to the Post Office. We got a call at 7am on Monday.

I was surprised they would deliver in this cold, but as I thought about it, McMurray had to send them out. They cannot predict the weather a month in advance when these eggs were put in the incubator, (21 days) so they would have a lot of chicks that they hope survive delivery or a bunch of day olds that they need to dispose of somehow. Sure they would have to refund some people their money or resend orders, but how would it help them to not send it?

We ordered 250 chicks. 50 layers and 200 heavy breed roosters for meat. They sent only 49 layers and we are down to 41 at 24 hours (6 DOA). The heavies on the other hand.... They sent 293. Obviously not a valuable chicken to them laugh . 11 were DOA, 2 died within 5 hours and we have lost 2 more due to overcrowding. How does one accommodate 80 extra chicks??!! I think I have that issue solved now, but it took some work, especially when every store within 45 minutes is out of heatlamps & bulbs. Thank goodness for children's swimming pools.

So I called McMurray, regardless of how many birds in total they sent I want my 50 layers. They were really decent to me, and told me to wait on reporting how many dead until Tuesday night or Wed. morning just in case more died.

So in our case they will be refunding me for at least 9 layers, but they fulfilled my other order. If they hadn't sent anything they would have alot more orders to satisfy. I too order as early as possible, so the weather will be an issue.

The other thing I realized, last year I ordered only 25 in April, the percentage of dead chicks was about the same. So in my limited experience, the weather was less of a factor than the whole transportation issue.

I hate seeing all the dead babies. The first few days I hate checking the chicks seeing which ones died now. Knowing that this one or that is very weak and probably won't make it. But it is all part of it the whole process. Hopefully for me we have some of our issues rectified and the rest will do well.

Don't blame yourself. Unfortunately some chicks die during shipping. It happens.

I wish I could actually pick up my order, but it just does not make sense for us. Hopefully the weather next weekend will be more cooperative. Its supposed to get into the teens here!! :rolleyes:

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#70093 - 02/06/07 01:10 PM Re: baby chick shipping nightmere
Bec Offline
Bantam

Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 56
Loc: Delaware
I have a question about ordering chicks.. When you place your order, do they take that amount of eggs and place them in the incubater to fill your order, or do they already have hatching eggs and pull them from there? I really hope that makes some kind of sense..lol

I am so sorry to hear that this happened to you..please don't blame yourself. I am sure it has nothing to do with anything you've done. I hope the babies you hae are well and happy.

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