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#73200 - 09/16/05 11:39 AM Making them whiter?
Jrsygntbrdr1 Offline
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Registered: 06/12/05
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Loc: Arkansas
I have a question. I have heard that there is a trick to making chickens seem whiter and giving them a "shinier" plumage. I've done a search and it turned up one article that claimed if cornstarch was rubbed on the bird that it helped make the bird whiter and glossier. Does anybody know if this will help make the birds whiter?

I already use bluing solution, and if it turns them a dark color...I dilute bleach to get the blue out. Does anybody have any suggestions on how to clean them better than this? I've done it many times, but the "experts" at shows, won't help the younger showers learn how to "whiten" the birds. Thank you for any information you have!

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#73201 - 09/16/05 12:18 PM Re: Making them whiter?
Garden Chick Offline
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We used to use bluing on the horses in 4-H, maybe you need to dilute it more. Or try peroxide.

There must be some thing that other types of showers use, look at the dog and cat shows, many white critters there.

Are the experts threatened by you??

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#73202 - 09/16/05 01:20 PM Re: Making them whiter?
Jrsygntbrdr1 Offline
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I believe they are. The birds are in excellent condition other than looking a bit dirty. If I could get them a bit whiter or "cleaner" I'm sure that they would place higher in the show. They have already won several firsts, but for some reason, the owners of the other white birds won't share their whitening secret. Did I mention that I have tried bleach? I only use a capful of bluing solution with 2 gallon bucket. The first bird that I tried it on I poured it on him, thinking that the more I put on, the better....that didn't work, he turned out purple. As to your question about threatened...i'm not sure if they are or not...I'm just doing the best I can w/ what I have.

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#73203 - 09/16/05 01:41 PM Re: Making them whiter?
Garden Chick Offline
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Just selfish, selfish, selfish. If they were truly secure and wanting to see the "sport" continued, they'd be more than happy to help you along. Give'm hell.

You did mention bleach, I just thought peroxide might attack a different stain. I would pick up loose feathers and just keep trying things. You have me thinking, I love to figure out things. I'm surprised the bleach doesn't bother the chickens!

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#73204 - 09/16/05 01:59 PM Re: Making them whiter?
Garden Chick Offline
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Did a search about whitening and found something interesting. Search for "sta white" under the "poultry breeding/genetics" forum. Give them a date of 11-12-2004. Maybe your chickens aren't dirty!!

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#73205 - 09/16/05 04:11 PM Re: Making them whiter?
Jrsygntbrdr1 Offline
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Loc: Arkansas
I thought it might have been genetics taking over except this only happens when it rains, so I believe it is dried mud that eventually evaporates to dirt after a few days. It washes off easily, it's just I would like my birds to look their absolute best when I take them to the show. It's not absolutely necessary, but I would like to know something so that I, if not anyone else, will be able to pass on the information. It makes me mad that they won't help younger generations. In fact, I just found out that the fair I'm going to be at will be part showmanship and part bird quality...yay...However, the older showers had known this since the last fair. So now, I have to learn how to do showmanship all over again...this time I found a site that has pictures though.
anyway...have you ever heard about cornstarch being used? Thanks again everybody...esp gardenchick for trying so hard!

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#73206 - 09/16/05 04:12 PM Re: Making them whiter?
Jrsygntbrdr1 Offline
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Loc: Arkansas
I forgot to tell you...I absolutely HATE using bleach. It makes me so sick when I smell it, so I only used VERY diluted bleach when I screw up with too much bluing solution. He was a very pretty purple rooster though....hehe

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#73207 - 09/16/05 04:27 PM Re: Making them whiter?
Bill Offline
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Loc: Nevada
#1 - White birds should never be in the sun
#2 - White birds should never be on the ground
#3 - One or 2 drops of Bluing/gal of water, in the rinse water is pleanty.

If you are going to let you birds outside, make sure they are in a Shaded area. Sun tends to make them a Brassy color

If you are gong to have them on the ground, they must have a deep layer of shavings to keep them out of the dirt. After they are washed for show, it is best to keep white birds in pens with a deep layer of shavings & then clean the pens every day to keep poop from coloring their feathers.

How do you wash them???
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#73208 - 09/16/05 05:02 PM Re: Making them whiter?
Rob2 Offline
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Bill, whats the name of the iris(on your web page) with the red standards and purple centerd falls?

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#73209 - 09/16/05 05:30 PM Re: Making them whiter?
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I agree with Bill, my daughter shows a white silkie pullet. She is never in the sun and is always in a conditioning cage, never meeting dirt of any kind. Doing this has kept her immaculate. At washing we use baby shampoo in the wash water and the rinse water has vinegar, it rinses them cleaner and breaks down suds. He is right about the bluing one or two drops is plenty. One day before shows we mix vet rx with water and spray them down and wipe excess with a cloth. It leaves a great sheen but allows plenty of time before the show for the smell to go away.

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