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#77469 - 06/28/07 06:38 PM Re: De-Crowing a Rooster
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Thank you for your input.
Why is it unethical?

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#77470 - 06/29/07 04:43 PM Re: De-Crowing a Rooster
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Apparently because of a decision of the Ethics Committees of numerous Veterinary Associations around the world.

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#77471 - 06/29/07 05:25 PM Re: De-Crowing a Rooster
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Before I went on the quest for a quiet rooster, I looked into the devoicing procedure. We have several avian specialists in the area; I found a chap who works for one of the local zoos who was familiar with the procedure, but had not himself performed it. It seems that the surgery (never common) was most usually performed on peacocks. The survival rate is reportedly low – and ‘relapses’ common enough. The price was about $500 several years ago, so higher now. I was told that for a barnyard fowl it was ridiculously expensive, and for a valuable pedigreed bird too risky, given the mortality rate – and even if the bird survived it once, it might not be lucky a second time, in the event of a relapse.


If you have the means to afford the surgery, you might better spend it by making a sound-proof coop. It is feasible for bantams – I fancy you could adapt it for a large rooster or two.

It is rather sad about roosters. The ‘country’ is being eaten up here – land that was under cultivation ten years ago is now a trendy city everywhere you look. Zoning regulations have advanced like an invading army.

Richard

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#77472 - 06/29/07 06:06 PM Re: De-Crowing a Rooster
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Thank you, you have been most helpfull and most kind, at such a heart breaking time for me. I wont be de-crowing Georgie, I will have to take him somewhere else to live. It breaks my heart to think that I wont be seeing him run across the yard to see me, and do his little dance before he eats. I hope other birds wont kill him...he's such a doll.

Thanks again
kodiblue (georgie's Mama)

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#77473 - 06/29/07 06:11 PM Re: De-Crowing a Rooster
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Registered: 08/08/06
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The neighbour I used to have that sold out, had "illegal" roosters in town. No way I would report her to the council. I kinda liked waking to the sound of her rooster crowing. Other neighbours apparently equally tolerant, but then on the other side of us we do have a neighbour who has not been very nice in the past, so i don't have a rooster at all.
Interesting R rasberry that you have a 3 hen limit. Under our town bylaws we are allowed 10, but the restrictions on coops and runs would make it almost impossible to have hens. (10 metres from boundarys. 10 metres from kitchens) I get around that by not having a fixed coop. If the coop is mobile (on wheels) I can't be pinged for breaking those laws. I keep 8 hens, but have had up to 24 when they have chicks.

If it were easy to de-crow, it would be common as it would solve a huge problem on the rooster issue. The fact that it's difficult, dangerous and for some of us illegal, shows it's been looked at and rightly rejected.

Sound proofing a coop sounds a reasonable answer if you can't bear to part with him Kodiblue, but if you can find him a good home, perhaps in future a pet hen would be a better choice.

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#77474 - 06/29/07 07:08 PM Re: De-Crowing a Rooster
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Where I am, roosters are not illegal per se, but there is a nuisance ordinance – better safe than sorry. I have a few neighbours with roosters – can hear them calling in the morning – but do not want to ‘push’ my luck.


I had two roosters that needed a place to be while I had their sound-proof enclosure made. I made two pens in the garage for them – lights on a timer, installed a window air conditioner. They were there about two months – happy as could be. I rotated the hens with them, and maintained fertility in the eggs. You could easily make that your permanent solution, no?

Richard

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#77475 - 06/30/07 06:25 AM Re: De-Crowing a Rooster
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Where would you look to find a city ordinance about chickens?

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#77476 - 06/30/07 07:45 AM Re: De-Crowing a Rooster
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#77477 - 06/30/07 09:49 AM Re: De-Crowing a Rooster
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They were there about two months – happy as could be. I rotated the hens with them, and maintained fertility in the eggs. You could easily make that your permanent solution, no?

Richard...........Thanks again Richard...but
Georgie is running free in our back yard, with a pool and lots of wood and cement decks. He sleeps in the top of a 30 foot tree 12 hours each night.We have no other chickens or roosters.....We can't even get him to go into the pool house. He wants to run free. We are not going to de-crow him........but are trying to find a place for him. He is so use to my husband and myself as his only contact. He plays and eats and sits on us.....and is totally dependent. I am so afraid that other chickens or roosters will harm him.......and he'll be looking for us to protect him. It's breaking our hearts...Never thought we could fall totally in love with a Rooster. We live in So. Calif. and Yes, Ive checked with the city and it is against the law. If it werent for the big mouth neighbors, with a stupid barking dog, who turned us in........Georgie would be just fine here. Who is gonna feed him his popcorn, grapes, tomatoes, and meal worms....like his Mama........NO BODY...thats who!

Thanks for listening
Barbie Pierce (Georgie's Mama)

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#77478 - 06/30/07 10:02 AM Re: De-Crowing a Rooster
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We are not zoned for hens or roosters....Georgie flew over our back fence which faces a large field. He was just a little guy, when he came over. We had never thought of having anything other than the dogs and cats we have. He adopted us as his family and we fell in love with him. Yes, I am going to have to find a place, and hope other hens or roosters don't harm or kill him, because he is such a dependent guy. Just plays all day with the birds and little lizards that are around the yard. That is when he's not crowing for me to come out and play, feed , or hold him. Then he just sets on the window sills and looks in and watches the tv....and pecks at the window.
He is my little love....
Barbie (Georgie's Mama)

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