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#77854 - 10/07/03 08:34 PM The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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Ok - one of my buff orps has me really confused. At 15 weeks she(?) is way bigger than everybody else, even my jersey giants. Has way way bigger comb and wattles. Only my columbian rock has a well a defined comb and wattles already but not nearly like the buff. All chicks ordered from hatchery sexed. Not crowing and no spurs. Likes to do the sneaky pants and come up behind you and watch what you are doing. When you realize that she(?) is there she kinda gives you the old one eye glare mad (I call it the piss-off look). Yet she doesn't seem to be the "big chick" in the coop. A little white easter egger is the dictator. Whats up with my girl? confused

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#77855 - 10/09/03 05:00 AM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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Maybe the bird is a hemaphrodite?????? confused

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#77856 - 10/09/03 12:18 PM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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For a heavier breed like a buff orpington 15 weeks of age would be very early for a rooster to start crowing yet, I would think maybe 20 weeks abd it could be even 25-26 weeks before he start crowing, I would watch to see if he/she trys to mate with anybody a lot and then you could be sure about whether its a boy or a girl. And gomers mommy, what breed is cornflower??And how old is she/he??I must say from what I have read that hemaphrodite is quite rare so I am guessing either you have a hen that is going to start laying very very soon or you have a rooster that is not crowing yet, like I said to chookers watch and see if cornflower is mating with any of the girls.

MotherClucker

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#77857 - 10/09/03 01:46 PM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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I would guess that your hen is actually a rooster. While hatcheries' sexing methods are very accurate, they are not 100%. I orders 12 cornish-rock crosses and asked for all cockerels. I ended up with one pullet in the bunch.

You can look for sex feathers on him. The saddle feathers should start to be coming in now. They'll be at the base of the tail and will be quite pointy. In hens, they're very rounded and you can't tell the difference between them and the back feathers. Which is why people say hens do not get saddle feathers. You can also look at the hackle feathers(neck feathers) for the same thing. Males will have pointer feathers and females will have rounded, but still somewhat pointy feathers.

The best indicator is the comb and wattles. Males' combs will grow large fast and they will be much redder than pullets. As a general rule, pullets' combs and wattles will not turn red until they're ready to lay.

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#77858 - 10/10/03 08:02 AM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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I think you are probably right Monarch. But I would have to add my columbian rock to the "He" list as well. Bright red comb and wattles though he is the same size as the other chickens. frown Sadly - if you crow - you go (to the big soup pot in the sky that is). I sure wish I could keep one of them if they turn out to be roo's. But my neighbors would all have a cow laugh They want nothing to disturbe the peace.

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#77859 - 10/10/03 08:36 AM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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That's really unfortunate. I always loved the roosters because they have so much more character than the hens. Not to mention so much more color!

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#77860 - 10/10/03 09:15 AM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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Tell me about it. I just got a visit from the town Health Inspector. She got a complaint about Jerry. Dollars to donuts it was that seahag down the street. She won't let her kids even look at them because she thinks they're diseased. So now I've got to find a good home for him. My sister-in-law in Laconia knows someone that might be able to take him for me. His wife established the first no-kill animal shelter in NH. Hubby's gonna kill me, I'm crying on his keyboard. When the lady told me that he had to go, I just starting crying and told her that I raised him from a chick. And I have to get a license for Slifer and Obelisk. And a visit from the Dog Officer. How am I going to tell Mike? This just sucks. frown

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#77861 - 10/10/03 10:02 AM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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I'm really sorry to here that SC. I know from experience how evil neighbors can be. I had to coop up my guineas because a neighbor complained that they were eating their strawberries! That ticked me off royally!

Out of curiousity, what was the complaint about? If it was because they're diseased, you could probably take them to a vet and let them have a complete physical.

I'm really sorry to hear that. I've heard so much about Jerry and now you have to get rid of him.

If you find out that lady's email address, I'll glad email her and tell her to grow up and get a life!

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#77862 - 10/10/03 12:43 PM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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Dear Spotted Crow,

I am so sorry to hear about Jerry, I am shedding tears for you as well. I hope you can find a great home for him

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#77863 - 10/10/03 01:28 PM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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They're not diseased. It was just that when Slifer first came, she was plucked to sh*t. She had no feathers on her back and her toes are crooked, so seahag presumed she was sick. :p
The complaint was about Jerry crowing. Mike's ready to kill her, resurrect her and kill her again. Not a good thing to hear from my 10-year old. But I concur. My sister-in-law just called and said that the guy can't take Jerry, because he already has a rooster. Crap!! She's still going to look around and I've heard of a farm in Methuen from someone here or on Poultry Connexion, so I'll look into that also. This really sucks chicken ploop with a silly straw. frown

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#77864 - 10/10/03 03:09 PM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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You know, you ought to be super critical on her now. If you hear music, complain. If you hear a dog bark, complain. If you hear a child scream, complain. smile

The old cliche is "Don't get mad, get even" laugh

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#77865 - 10/10/03 04:56 PM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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I agree with MonarchzMan, If she can do that to you then you go ahead and do it right back to her. I am probably just really mad at the moment because I sort of know how much Jerry meant to you. I feel like I knew him in person laugh . I am soooo sorry about you having to get rid of him. But my only thing is why did she not make the call a lot earlier like when Jerry first started crowing instead of now????Isn't there someway you could keep Jerry??Do you live in the city??

Whitefoot

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#77866 - 10/11/03 05:16 AM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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Spotted Crow
Sorry to hear about Jerry. Try keeping him as long as you can or until the animal control guy comes back out. Is there anyway you can keep him in more so the hag down the road wont hear him? good luck

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#77867 - 10/11/03 07:42 AM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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One of the girls at work's hubby said to try one of those dog zapper collars. I said that the way my luck is running, I'd put it on him, he'd crow, get zapped and die of a heart attack. frown I'm going to try a couple of local farms and the Animal Killing League and see what I can do. If not...I'll take Jerry to the vet down the street and have him do the dirty deed. frown

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#77868 - 10/11/03 10:04 AM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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Why would you have the vet kill Jerry???I mean if crowing is a problem and you really really love Jerry can't you get him devocalized(sp)???

Whitefoot

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#77869 - 10/11/03 10:23 AM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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It may be a little late for the procedure, but you can at least ask. You may be able to get him caponized. That would stop the hormones to crow and to grow his comb any bigger and to grow sickles and saddle feathers. He'd basically be a hen that doesn't lay eggs

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#77870 - 10/11/03 10:48 AM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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He's 19 weeks old. Is that to late to caponize?

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#77871 - 10/11/03 11:22 AM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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Chookers, I really do apologize that I hijacked your thread. I was just so upset about Jerry. Again I apologize.

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#77872 - 10/11/03 06:05 PM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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Quote:
Originally posted by Spotted Crow:
He's 19 weeks old. Is that to late to caponize?
I don't know. You can probably ask you local avian vet. I have never done it, so I can't really say. 19 weeks seems rather young, so he may be able to do it...

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#77873 - 10/11/03 06:48 PM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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I don't know Spotted - It seems like such a friendly hijacking laugh . I would stick it out till the bitter end with your roo. It seems like you have had him a long time and that he is a good boy. I sure hope that mine is just a weird pullet and not a roo. Both hubby and I would like to have a roo. SOOOOO - we are just going to see what comes out in the wash. If she/he starts to crow, we'll just keep everybody in the coop until 8:00am. That way its atleast muffled a bit. All our neighbors are up and around by then and heck - if they aren't - they should be wink . I really wonder who will complain first. Hmmmm I wonder if bribery would work

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#77874 - 10/11/03 07:08 PM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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Roosters wil crow throughout the day... It's set off by light, though it isn't set off by just that....

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#77875 - 10/12/03 05:48 AM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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Chookers, that what I was doing also. I have the coop covered so that he can't see the first light. The only time that he crowed really early, before 7, was when the people behind us lost their dog and she turned on all the lights and scared everyone. This female is just making alot of trouble anyways. Too make matters worse, I was her only friend when she first came into the neighbourhood and she's the mother of my son's best friend. Grrr

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#77876 - 10/12/03 11:32 AM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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Okay everybody. My she is a HE laugh Let everybody out of the coop this morning and he crowed. A little patheticly(sp) mind you but a crow none the less. Scared all the girls back into the coop though. Very funny. I have a Buff Orp rooster. Now - I have to plan how I am going to keep him without annoying the whole neighborhood. Would keeping him in the coop till 8:00am prevent him from crowing before he is let out. No windows in the coop. I really want to keep him as long as he is a good Roo. Might even name him (Wally). Also we had a bear through the yard last night. Took down a whole bunch of fence right by the coop. But he didn't get in. And our wonder dog heard not a thing.

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#77877 - 10/12/03 01:17 PM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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Congrats on "Wally". I hope you'll be able to keep him. It's a lovely sound to wake up to, compared to kids yelling, car alarms, rubbish trucks...

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#77878 - 10/12/03 03:00 PM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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THis may be a dumb question but do they make rooster muzzles something so they can still eat and drink? just a thought.. good luck

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#77879 - 10/13/03 12:03 PM Re: The "she" that may be a "he" but who knows
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I wish... I was making rooster muzzles out of pipecleaners in my sleep all last night. :rolleyes:
Either Caponizing or Ce-Crowing is major surgery and no vet around here is likely to do it and there's no way I could do it myself.
Whitefoot, if I can't find a suitable home for him that won't use him for fighting practice or soup or rituals, then I will, as much as I love him, have him put down. That would be the worse case scenario, though. I have e-mails into the Humane Society, Nevin's Farm in Methuen and I'm going to call the Wildlife Center in Hingham and a couple of local farms tomorrow to see if they can give him a home. A girl at work suggested the local riding stable, too. So I'll try them also. I'm keeping my finger and toes crossed. My best friend lives down in Middletown, MD and I might just have to take a road trip...A witch and her rooster:what a sight...

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