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#7797 - 04/20/04 09:02 AM omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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Bo Pilgram came out with an omega 3 egg. I need omega 3 (found in fish oil)cus i have poor short term memory and poor consintration. I tried taking fish oil pills but they flooded my gall bladder with oil and my Gall Stones acted up.(painful).
How the Heck did Bo get the omega 3 in the eggs. Simplist thought is feed the fish oil to the hens but is that all there is to it?
Bo wants darn near $4 dz for his eggs. fish oil is cheap.
If any one realy knows how he did it please tell me. Mellissa
confused (omega3 deficciant chick)

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#7798 - 04/20/04 11:43 AM Re: omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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Feed your hens grass. Here is a link: one of many possible grass-fed sources

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#7799 - 04/20/04 11:44 AM Re: omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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Many people believe that feeding flax seed is the best way to increase the amount of omega-3, but it is not, and you may hear from some of those people in this thread.

The best way is to feed less grains and more grass.

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#7800 - 04/20/04 11:54 AM Re: omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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There is about 20 years of published research on the development of nutrition programs to produce Omega-3 eggs. A search of Animal Breeding Abstracts or Nutrition Abstracts and Reviews-Series B will give you the background and the history of the developing process.

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#7801 - 04/20/04 12:24 PM Re: omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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caveny and leee,
Thanks for the info..I never bothered to read Bo's package on the egg crate :rolleyes: LOL. all i saw was 3 somthing a carton and snubbed my nose.
I'll get heavy into those links tonight when my chores are done.

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#7802 - 04/20/04 12:31 PM Re: omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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Silver Platter and Agricola at most universities hit the CAB and USDA abstracts as well as the medical and other abstracts. A would start with the key words: poultry nutrition, PUFA, Omega-3 Fatty Acids, Kelp, vitamin B-6, Iodine, Vitamin E, Flax seed, Chia and then modify it from there to get what I wanted. I think to restrict to CAB Nutrition abstracts and Review series B you use AO or maybe AN or AB but check with the research librarian for the proper restritions within the search criteria. You want to restrict work from the agronomy abstracts because that usually gets you into growing information and other areas which don't apply to nutritional uses of items as feedstuffs. Once you get the information on the abstract DO NOT DOWNLOAD TO DISK BUT print on paper.....university computer systems are loaded with viruses and if you bring discs you usually bring viruses....you would think kids would have more brains than to distribut trash but they don't.

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#7803 - 04/20/04 05:05 PM Re: omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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My birds free range on Coastal grass pasture. They are getting, and transferring to the eggs, omega 3 and 6, without it costing me an added dime.

If you want to improve your memory, take ginkgo biloba. It does absolute wonders for the memory.

I take Omega 3-6-9 softgels and also lutein and bilberry capsuls, but only to ward off inheriting the macular degeneration my unfortunate mom has. Any other benefits from them are gratefully accepted!

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#7804 - 04/21/04 04:59 PM Re: omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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Agricola is an online periodical indexing service that, because of government funded, is freely available. The url for Agricola is http://agricola.nal.usda.gov/ So you don't have to leave your computer where you are now to search it.

I tried Agricola just now and found 11 results when I tried a search of poultry nutrition [all of these], Omega 3 [as a phrase] (both in the keyword field), and got 11 hits, including one about atlantic salmon. Most of the others were right on the money. Unfortunately, only the bibliographic citations are provided in Agricola, not full text of the articles or even abstracts.

A high percentage of the articles were published in Poultry Science. The Poultry Science web site http://www.poultryscience.org/ps/
provides full text of the articles to members. But non-members may access abstracts by selecting them from the tables of contents found on the Web page.

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#7805 - 04/22/04 08:06 AM Re: omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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From Pilgrims Pride website they use grains and flax seed to make Omega 3 eggs. http://www.pilgrimspride.com/eggsplus/default.asp

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When you're an egg, you are what your hen eats.
EggsPlus come from hens fed a unique diet of natural grains and flaxseed rich in Essential Fatty Acids. We also feed them a patented blend of natural antioxidants to help increase the nutritional quality of EggsPlus. This allows our hens to produce fresh eggs containing seven times more Vitamin E than ordinary eggs. And they include both Omega-3 and Omega-6 Essential Fatty Acids. That's the EggsPlus difference.

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#7806 - 04/23/04 08:26 PM Re: omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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Leee,
I feed my poultry a lot of Alfalfa chaff from the feed store. I also feed Rabbit pellets as an alternative as another alternative when grass or hay isn't available, so, should I assume my eggs are high in the Omega's?? Is there any way to have them tested?
Sally

p.s. that was an awesome site you posted
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#7807 - 05/09/04 07:55 AM Re: omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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OK, the information needs clarifying, IMO. This isn't to say that grass fed or free ranged isn't good, it is. It just is not Omega 3 "enriched" as is being suggested here.

First, there is a big difference between a food item containing an ingredient naturally and it being "enriched" with that ingredient. For example, consider the current fad with "calcium enriched" milk. Now we all know that milks contain calcium, so what's the diff with calcium enriched and regular? Well calcium enriched contains elevated calcium to augment diets lacking in calcium.

Well the same goes for eggs that contain "omega 3s" and eggs that are enriched with omega 3s. The enriched eggs have far more omega 3 than the natural eggs and are therefore better able to compensate for the other parts of our diets that are lacking in omega 3s. Whether this is important is dependant on one's overall diet and health concerns. For anyone to suggest that grass fed is of equal or better omega 3 quality is wrong.

Now the easiest ways for north americans to "enrich" their eggs is to feed flax seed or certain fish oils to their birds. There are pros and cons to both that I won't bother going into here, but a search on this topic and my name should dig up some relevant links to get you started. However, the notion that flax seed wasn't the best source was accurate, there are better sources of omega 3 enrichment and Caveny mentioned one, chia. Hemp seed is another. Both don't have a negative dosage effect like the flax seeds and fish oils do, therefore allowing greater enrichment.

Finding reliable availability of chia or hemp seed in north america wasn't easy, so I compromised and use flax seed to enrich my free ranged (grass and bug fed) birds. I use an 18% feed (layer or grower) and mix in 10% flax seed and a sprinkle of vitamin E. Vitamin E counteracts the toxic effect of the flax seed and as a side bonus, enriches my eggs with vitamin E. This is why most omega 3 eggs are also vitamin E enriched. But with only 10% flax seed, one would probably be safe without it. If one wanted to increase their omega 3 enrichment past that (people with heart and/or weight loss concerns), they would need to do their homework and learn specific dosages to keep their chickens healthy. Warning though, I've read that excess flax seed can make your eggs taste fishy, so even with vitamin E addition, there is a practical limit.

Buying the flaxseed can be problematic because there is much misinformation out there amongst the feed dealers. The most common one is that they try to get me to buy ground flax instead of whole flaxseed, saying that the birds can't digest the whole grain. I guess they forget that natural birds have rocks in their crops or maybe what those rocks do. I usually just laugh at the stupidity and suggest that I've never seen whole flax seeds in the droppings of my birds. However, you do want to avoid ground flaxseed as the ground flaxseed has a poor shelf life and the last thing you want to be doing is feeding rancid flax meal to your birds. I usually pay $25Can per 50 pound bag of flaxseed, which after it is spread out over 10 bags of feed, works out to pennies per dozen eggs. Or a couple bucks per turkey, a cost easily recouped with the higher price that omega 3 enrichment demands.

Another precaution is that to be effective, the omega 3 enrichment needs to be consistent. It can take a couple weeks to build up the omega 3 levels in the eggs, but only a couple days to loose it. So each time you fail to feed your birds enriched feed, you are basically starting over. A bit of a pain, but the health benefits are well worth it, IMO. Good luck and healthy eating!
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#7808 - 05/10/04 07:26 AM Re: omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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Disagree with what another poster says by being specific and offering sound alternatives. Suggesting that other readers are not doing their homework or need a chemistry lab doesn't really advance the discussion. Characterizing other readers as uninformed, stupid, or in need of education will generally bring on editing and deletions. Please disagree with points made, not with each other. Thanks.

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#7809 - 05/13/04 06:45 PM Re: omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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The man I am hatching these eggs for cited a very recent article to me about omega3 in eggs, and one of our professors was somehow involved with/quoted/referenced/? in the article. I will get an actual reference to the article and post it tomorrow, but basically he said to feed the chickens ALGAE. eek
This person is very wary of heavy metals in foods, especially farm raised fish, but likes his omega3, so was excited to learn ways to increase it in the eggs. Off the shelf codlliver oil has plenty of omega3, but also likely has heavy metals. Pharmacy grade cod liver oil is too expensive to use...
Anyway, I will post the link to the algae article tomorrow.
-jo

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#7810 - 05/14/04 02:23 PM Re: omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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Unfortunately, he didnt keep the link to the article, but did think it was on NYTimes.
Sorry - he didnt even know the name of the article.

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#7811 - 05/14/04 07:36 PM Re: omega3 eggs how does Bo do it?
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