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#91988 - 10/09/10 02:23 AM Re: Calling all Germans: Goldfarbig and Wildfarbig [Re: Wieslaw]
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Here is a mother with her daughter. The daughter has some blood from English Light Brown Leghorns, which look overall lighter to begin with.



What gene(s) or gene combination can cause this(look at the breasts):


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#91990 - 10/09/10 03:14 AM Re: Calling all Germans: Goldfarbig and Wildfarbig [Re: Wieslaw]
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Silver. The mother looks red enhanced to me.

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#91993 - 10/09/10 03:46 AM Re: Calling all Germans: Goldfarbig and Wildfarbig [Re: Henk69]
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In her case paternity is known -no silver involved.

Silver doesn't have to affect the breast(not always):


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#91995 - 10/09/10 05:00 AM Re: Calling all Germans: Goldfarbig and Wildfarbig [Re: Wieslaw]
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My point is that these are red enhanced salmon breasts.

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#91997 - 10/09/10 05:49 AM Re: Calling all Germans: Goldfarbig and Wildfarbig [Re: Henk69]
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Is Di known to affect the breasts of the wild type females in one dose?

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#92001 - 10/09/10 07:51 AM Re: Calling all Germans: Goldfarbig and Wildfarbig [Re: Wieslaw]
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Dilute still has a very doubtful status, imo.

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#92796 - 11/20/10 05:45 AM Re: Calling all Germans: Goldfarbig and Wildfarbig [Re: Henk69]
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Apropos ig/ig dilution:
Although I found that on my own duckwings the lighter colour of the hackles is accompanied by lighter colour of the body, I have also found that it doesn't have to be this way. Look here(the picture had a title 'cream brown leghorns'):


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#92797 - 11/20/10 09:18 AM Re: Calling all Germans: Goldfarbig and Wildfarbig [Re: Wieslaw]
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The shoulder is not representative. Many ig/ig roosters are even redder there. Whole different story with columbian restricted chickens.

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#92802 - 11/20/10 12:05 PM Re: Calling all Germans: Goldfarbig and Wildfarbig [Re: Henk69]
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In Dutch Bantams, in the Geelpatrijs,(igig), the light red/orange back is preferred--with Geelpatrijs to Geelpatrijs the preferred breeding for "show" color expression.
The dark red back indicates a "sometime" cross to a Patrijs carrier (ig), and while often done, is not recommended for correct Geelpatrijs vzriety description for "show" birds. Tails, and other plumage goals, dictate the wish to cross with Patrijs--as often, the Geelpatrijs will have superior plumage. Some Patrijs breeders need it! And those offspring with (igig) ARE of course, Geelpatrijs, from one or both Patrijs carriers. (Maybe only the breeder "knows"!) I have a super Patrijs cock that was sired by a Geelpatrijs, but have no Patrijs (ig)-carrier hens, but a Geelpatrijs hen would give me some gorgeous offspring. Maybe sometime? CJR

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#92803 - 11/20/10 12:22 PM Re: Calling all Germans: Goldfarbig and Wildfarbig [Re: Henk69]
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Comment to my previous posting(with the last picture)

I should have written that I meant the PULLET to be in focus here. She doesn't look melanized , but the contrast between the colour of her neck hackle and the body is big. My own diluted pullets look pale on the body too.

This posting is following the previously mentioned thought , that ig/ig has 'very weak columbian effect'(making peppering smaller, thus allowing for more background colour to be visible), ie paler/lighter birds

I will show what I mean. If you compare the two mottled duckwings, the hen on the left is diluted on the hackles AND on the WHOLE BODY:




The pullet on the picture from my previous posting is ONLY DILUTED ON THE NECK HACKLES


Edited by Wieslaw (11/20/10 12:58 PM)

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